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Former Nvidia CEO Huang had a relationship with a second employee, sources say

https://www.reuters.com/technology/former-nvidia-ceo-huang-had-relationship-with-second-employee-sources-say-2026-11-12/
If you find two ants in the kitchen, there are more than two ants in the kitchen.
It's true of kitchen-ant comments as well: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

We have to figure out where this comes from! It's so recent: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49828285 references https://x.com/_NathanCalvin/status/2084856543561093535 - that's the earliest I've seen so far. Others?

Edit: thanks ChatGPT: https://barrypopik.com/blog/there_is_never_one_cockroach_bus...

Proverb #232 of https://www.asau.ru/files/pdf/2759983.pdf says it's attested from 1991:

232 There is never just one cockroach. (1991)

Variant: There is never just one cockroach in the kitchen

Ants are nicer though.

Warren Buffet said the cockroach variant in his 1989 investor letter.

https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1989.html

"In a difficult business, no sooner is one problem solved than another surfaces - never is there just one cockroach in the kitchen."

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Possibly Nathan Calvin on Twitter in August: If you find two ants in your kitchen, the best estimate of the total number of ants in your kitchen is not two

August 5th about Open AI:

https://x.com/_NathanCalvin/status/2084856543561093535

September 4th.. still about Open AI:

https://x.com/_NathanCalvin/status/2095854095139537064

November 11th.. Alex Lawsen on Twitter, referencing Nathan's post (above):

https://x.com/lxrjl/status/2120640689620861335

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Completely tangential but I always find it interesting how different expressions become attached to specific contexts in people's heads.

"This old house as got good bones" is the realtor 'slaps roof of car' meme that seems to have caught on during the 2010s and peaked during COVID. Now I hear people mindlessly propagating it whenever they talk about renovating/buying an old home.

I'm sure that we'll be hearing this ants in the kitchen of the house with good bones thing forever now.

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This is my favorite HN comment of 2026. Thanks dang.
Aren't these similar to "when it rains, it pours" or "adding insult to injury" or "Troubles don't come alone, they like to arrive in groups"?

https://www.reddit.com/r/QuotesPorn/comments/9uu7wp/troubles...

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A 1985 Dallas Morning News article attributes the heuristic to "Sanders", as cited in a 2003 mailing list (https://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/ads-l/2003-Septe...).

Fable 5.2 couldn't access the full DMN text (nor can I), but suggests the article is about "local TV journalists reacting to a report on minority hiring" and "Sanders" is probably a reporter named Bob Ray Sanders, a reporter in the region (who was later inducted to the National Association of Black Journalists' Hall of Fame). What he actually said is sadly paywalled in the archives.

Viral memetics didn’t disappear just because we got bots pushing narratives.
It makes sense for cockroaches, which make it their business to hide from you.

It's not even true for ants. If you find two ants in the kitchen, they were just there by coincidence. Ants aren't concerned with whether you can see them; if they're interested in something in your kitchen, they'll show up by the hundreds to take it away, and they'll be impossible to miss.

"The man who has fed the chicken every day throughout its life at last wrings its neck instead, showing that more refined views as to the uniformity of nature would have been useful to the chicken."

-- Bertrand Russell, 1912

Point is, if you find two ants in the kitchen it's worth to investigate if there are more. Blindly assuming there were more, like the original quote seems to suggest, will burn you sooner or later.

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If the ant in your kitchen IPOs the same day you are evicted from your kitchen, the spies in your kitchen are not Chinese.
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> If you find two ants in the kitchen, there are more than two ants in the kitchen.

And Jensen Huang may have had an improper relationship with at least one of them.

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listening to the verge?
This seems like a coordinated hit, slowly releasing more and more information. What's really going on?
One affair always brings up other affairs out of the closet. Same rule goes for harassment and abuse claims.

That’s what is going on.

Yep. Maybe the other parties thought they had a special thing with him and now realize they're just another body? That makes people vindictive and willing to talk.

His security detail is also no longer worried about retribution and are likely complying with an internal investigation.

It's very likely his affairs were simply open secrets within the C suite.

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The better metaphor is "where there's smoke, there's fire."

Three different news orgs have reported the different affairs.

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This happens all the time with news stories and doesn't require conspiracy theories. Once an initial story breaks, other journalists investigate (if they weren't already). No doubt Nvidia started investigating internally and employees will have leaked the findings.

There isn't really even any point in this third story from the point of view of any "coordinated attack". He's already resigned.

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It might just be that the one affair learned that she is not the only one and went public. Then the third one also learned that she is not the only one ...
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Wall Street and the powers that be want total control over AI and the companies involved in it
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Correlation isn’t causation always. Once there’s a scandal, more people start digging, and the more they dig, the more they find. The news cycle continues rewarding more information, so you keep getting more.
Are you serious? He had multiple affairs is what's going on. Including one with a spy. And people who wouldn't be believed before are now coming forward.

There's probably some mildly interesting risk-balancing that happened behind the scenes because the intel community apparently knew mid-2026 and only spilled the beans now, but this is entirely of Jensen's own doing. He confessed.

He clearly is a top performer, though, managing four-plus relationships is a big job.

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just to diversify this subthread a little, i actually do see the perspective: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50476972

tbf, these side affairs i think are more just people piling on

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Bless the fellow HN folks.

It’s a common tactic to make sure the scandal stays on the front page and it’s untenable to try to stay on. Politicians do this all the time. Scandals happen constantly, it they’re saved for when they are most useful. Jensen is in politics, whether he realises it or not.

China may be behind it as an attempt to sabotage America’s economy. But I actually think more likely the Americans as Nvidia haven’t complied sufficiently.

I really feel for Jensen. He’s dedicated his life to Nvidia and really is heavily responsible for its success. It must be devastating to have to step away from it.

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> What's really going on?

A lesson, apparently, for everyone asking "what the big deal is".

If ever you wanted to understand the meaning of the word "liability", here it is.

"Coordinated hits", as you put it, have as their prerequisite the creation of a "liability".

Journalism plus circumstances loosening tongues and reducing the downside of being truthful.

As the British police are fond of saying in cold case appeals: allegiances shift.

Dont mess up with the intelligence community. He should have talked more to Jack Ma.
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> What's really going on?

him sleeping around, hth

A serial adulterer is revealed to have adulterated serially, and SV types are spilling oodles of ink attempting to justify loose morals and bad decision-making so long as it brought increased shareholder value.
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> What's really going on?

Jensen was not on the Epstein list. That omission is now coming back to haunt him.

I am reminded of the tv series "the shield". When it ends, our guy is asked "what all do you have to declare". I am paraphrasing.

Pretty sure the board asked the same question. Having finally been called to do their work, they can't just close the books without asking "what else do you have to declare" to both Jensen and at least all the direct reportees. And if there was a declaration, you can always find someone to leak it to the media.

Not saying that happened, just saying that it is likely such direct questions were asked and answered last few days.

wait until you hear he uses ATI chips at home
It's weird, right? You see the same thing in police investigations. Oh, they know some things early, then, later, release more information? We're not that dumb.

When a real scandal happens, everything we know or will ever know gets dropped all at once. Anything else and you know someone is pulling the strings. The question is who? My money is on the arrow of time.

he's getting investigated? are you under a rock
Entrapment, they (FBI, whatever) knew about the "spy" and yet didn't go like ... "Hey Jensen, we gotta tell you something..." Pathetic.
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>> What's really going on?

A shell game. This is the distraction portion. Then comes the switch, the reveal and the swipe. Watch the market indicators. Nobody buying and selling shares in a trillion-dollar company cares one iota about extramarital affairs. Something else is happening.

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As it turns out, Huang was a fallible human being.
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journalists pumping their sources
I always got the impression that it was somewhat of an open secret that most billionaires had soft harems of sorts, usually tacitly understood but never publicly addressed, and that the apparent outrage at affairs/scandals at this level is a sort of charade of allegiance to social norms to enforce the facade that standards of propriety apply even at the highest levels.
In my humble opinion the issue shouldn't be their perceived promiscuity, but their bad judgement in sleeping with a person from a client company (that might be affiliated with a country you can't export your products too), and colleagues that are not your peers.

For me, this is a lapse of judgement for the CEO and one of the founders of one of the biggest corporation's globally.

You’ve misread the room. Absolutely no one cares about the infidelity. One of the affairs has been public knowledge for months.

The outrage is about new reporting that one affair was with a potential Chinese asset, and the other affairs are more entertainment and/or evidence of bad leadership than anything else.

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Americans will also balk at sexual relations with a professional underling where it’s difficult to establish whether truly unconditional consent was given.
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There is an obvious pattern for these high level executive roles. They are all workaholics, they are not particularly loyal, they all have loose moral compasses, they don't have any clear line between work and their personal life, and they treat relationships like business arrangements.

This feels so common that I would not even be quick to assume this is some sort of unknown betrayal to his family. One of the revelations about the Gates' lives was that Bill's promiscuity was apparently baked into their marriage agreement. At this level, your marriage might just be like a fixed mailing address for someone who has multiple homes.

Not to excuse this in any way. But these are the personalities of medieval lords and kings.

Jensen and Lori met in early 1980s or so when they were 17 and 19 years old respectively. Moreover they got married in 1985, 13 years before Nvidia was even founded. Quite different from Bill and Melinda hooking up after Microsoft don't you think ? Not to mention his apology.
> One of the revelations about the Gates' lives was that Bill's promiscuity was apparently baked into their marriage agreement.

Are there details on this? Yes, I do like the sordid gossip.

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> I would not even be quick to assume this is some sort of unknown betrayal to his family

But (unless "unknown" is doing a lot of work in your sentence) Huang literally said this in his letter to NVidia employees: "I was unfaithful to my wife. My actions hurt her and our children. There is no excuse for what I did. I am deeply sorry."

Otherwise, I agree with a lot of what you said. In the 2000-2015 timeframe, I really idolized a lot of these successful tech leaders - they seemed incredibly smart, hard-working, and talented (though also of course lucky). But over time I came to the realization that many of them just fundamentally think very differently than I do, and I view that other way of thinking with disgust. The main issue is it seems like nearly all of their relationships are transactional, and they have a lack of empathy and willingness to be ruthless that is simply anathema to me.

Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, three times is a pattern.
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feel bad for his wife man, has to be rough to keep seeing this
We can't know if they had a talked open relationship. It's pretty common to hear about this kind of arrangements on high-level C-suite or government positions.
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I wouldn't be surprised if she's known for years, if not decades. If she wants out she always has the Melinda Gates option.
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TIL: True monogamy only appears in 3-5% of mammals in the animal kingdom.
I'm sure his wife feels reassured by that statistic.
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Is this common at the board level of major companies and uncommon to get out? Or is this really uncommon.
It is common at any level of any company
It's as common as days of the week that end in the letter Y.
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"I want a man with a short shirt, and a Huang jacket"

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I hope that the people he had affairs with are treated ok and not retaliated against or hounded by the world news media.

They weren't naive waifs. They knew what the deal was and who the dealer was.
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Why?
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There's this little part of me wondering if this was all known about for a long time, and the sudden release of information about all three women is coordinated for some nefarious business reason.
The affairs were probably open secrets to those high up for a while. Once Jensen's reputation passes a perceived point of no return, it makes sense for the other higher ups to leak everything they know to the media to shorten the duration of the scandal. The worst has happened, their action will not change, so no need to drag it out.
Whitehouse knew it months ago… why is it coming out after election? Not sure how it would have impacted it beforehand.
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With this kind of status and notoriety, so many eyes are on you, it's hard to keep this a secret from everyone, especially when it's happening in the workplace.
Powerful men cheating is often normalized in their immediate environment. Jensen was seen with both women many times. It's the Chinese spy and export ban skirt angle that made it untenable.

Cf. the open secret nature around the entire Epstein cabal.

> and the sudden release of information about all three women is coordinated for some nefarious business reason.

This framing is plain silly because it ignores the sequence of events. NVidia conducted an investigation after Huang admitted to having an affair with someone the US Government believed to be a Chinese spy, and in any case NVidia sold billions worth of embargoed chips to that company (and now it seems we have some proof per another HN front page story that the latest leading Chinese open source models were trained on embargoed NVidia chips). So then the other 2 instances of infidelity came out in the course of the investigation - of course as they definitely should, otherwise it would be a really shitty investigation! And sure, it was known by at least some number of other NVidia employees that Huang had relationships with subordinates (at least according to reporting). But that doesn't change the fact that Huang's relationship with Alice Huang was not known (and in fact denied by Jensen Huang) before this all went down.

It's not like Huang's 3 paramours got together before the investigation started in some sort of nefarious plot.

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trump is visiting China next week and the first story was about mistress being Chinese spy, so it makes you wonder whether this benefits China, Trump or US interests (don't confuse the latter two, they are two completely different things), I don't think China would leak "Chinese spy" story unless they are playing some serious 4D chess, which leaves you with two main options
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When you see two ants in the kitchen there's likely many more.

Huang has been a great boss and steward of Nvidia, but ultimately falling for subordinates is grave enough, adding alleged Chinese spies, and allegations you sold Tencent billions of hardware through shady Singaporean companies for which the alleged spy worked etc and the board had no other options.

At this point it would be surprising if what we know is likely a small part and the Nvidia board saw enough very quickly to ask for his head.

There's no need to look. Jensen Huang might have been great for his shareholders, but he sure has been screwing the rest of us over hard.

He was responsible for hanging consumers out to dry by destroying the consumer PC market in chase of more profit. He is gambling with the world economy. He appears on interviews being a dick about all of this.

So I'd say this is very much in character for him.

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All the irrelevant ant kitchen posts really drives home the dead internet theory.
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The mental gymnastics people are doing here to save face for Huang.

I don’t care if it’s 100 employees at this point, the big topic here should be that he is not to be trusted. He quite literally has been spoon feeding China behind the US’s back. He deceived the entire country, he’s a con man.

The relationships are just an awful aside of what’s turning out to be a very bigger concern about national security.

I wonder if he followed a modern trend and was on TRT, it seems like a pattern for celebrity/powerful men of age these days: get on TRT, get in shape, cheat on your wife.
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Do you suppose Sheryl Sandberg was also trying trt?
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Tbh i do not understand the drama … not the first ceo to had affairs and shady deals, It feels more like the powers at be want to cut down Nvidia support to open models via removing the guy at the top due his liability with hot Asian girls but come on. Palantir had worst ceo for instance and nobody raises an eyebrow to name one
Political pressure given stuff like https://unemploymentlabs.com/checkpoint-forensics

Who the NVDA board wants answering questions in some inevitable hearings when the other side of all the money behind AI is trying to push for controls on Chinese models.

Edit: A little more context. Because it doesn't matter if Alice Huang is a Chinese spy. She's also held titles at Megaspeed, a Singapore based company that legitimately rents GPU time to Chinese model providers. The big money AI people would be pushing for more controls on that legit path also.

The problem is not that he had affairs in general, but that he had affairs with subordinates. That is not allowed by the company rules and US law.
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Yeah I have so much scandal fatigue, this is pretty D-tier.
I would if he went to bed everything realizing this is how it could all end?
Is it so bad? He founded one of history's most successful companies in one of the most exciting sectors on the planet and ran it for 33 years. He's 63.

The only thing that would actually be bad is if his wife left him, which we don't know is happening yet. Some women accept the "risk" (to put it tastelessly) of marrying a hundred-billionaire, and stick it out.

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At the current rate of disclosure Huang is going to be revealed to have had an affair with every woman in the world by 2038. It’s vital that we build out infrastructure to support this if we don’t want to be left behind.

At least we’ve now passed the tipping point where the majority of affairs are domestic. Some country out there is going to achieve HSM (Huang Second Marriage) and it’s vital to future prosperity that we make sure it’s the US.

"Claude, build me a website that tracks with whom Jensen Huang had an affair yet! Register the domain hasjensenhuanghadanaffair.with and treat GETs on subdirectories as names for queries, like hasjensenhuanghadanaffair.with/JaneDoe should display whether he had an affair with Jane Doe."
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sigh, another 2038 problem to solve.
I don't who the 3rd affair will be with, but the 4th one will be with sticks and stones
That is it...I am buying a leather jacket!
You also need employees.
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Maybe aging to 60+ won't be that bad? Thank you Jensen for showing younger men there is hope.
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Buy a brown one
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the public discourse around this thing and the moralizing reminds me of the Norm Macdonald bit about Tiger Woods.

"What? I don't believe you! Are you telling me, are you trying to tell me that that guy , worth 6 billion, you're telling me that the world's greatest athlete over there, Tiger Woods -- you're telling me that that guy, that super handsome charismatic dude likes to lie down with ladies?

I DON'T BUY IT!"

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Man! Mr. Huang is B.U.S.Y., even at work lol

Just my opinion here, spy is probably fine, coworker is big no no. If I got a spy to bang, after it's done I'll publicly praise her on Twitter to thank her for the good time (assuming it is, otherwise I will have give advice) and tag my wife too so we can actually try the tricks at home but this time with true love. If a female coworker enters a meeting room alone with me, I'll insist that she keep the door behind her open so everyone can supervise what we are doing.

It's kinda pity. Mr. Huang seemed a nicer guy than the other CEOs, less dicky, trying to be useful etc. But then maybe that's why the other CEOs act like they do, a way to filter out the less loyal members from the company board. If Mr. Huang survives this, maybe he should get rid of whoever supported his ousting from the board, wasting money to breed a coup always burdens earning potential.

One affair is a scandal.

Two affairs is a pattern.

Three affairs is just funny.

Bill Gates had a similar pattern
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One relationship per GPU core.
There are memes about... running SLI <wink wink nudge nudge>

And frankly at this point, where nothing surprises you anymore we should probably just enjoy some stupid pictures with captions

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Unfortunatley for him I think his troubles are just starting. Heading towards a presidential pardon is strong possibility.
He is the CEO of GPU company. Parallelism is in the DNA
stop it!! he's already dead!!

in all seriousness though, what is going on? everything here feels well timed and coordinated. were the powers that be just waiting for US midterms to pass? is there any relationship to the anthropic IPO? my tin foil hat is going to be working overtime these next few days

Plenty of benign explanations without needing tinfoil

- The affair(s) were so badly hidden that they became obvious once one was exposed

- High profile CEO of one of the biggest companies in the world means a lot of eyes

- something akin to the Streisand effect keeps things in the news cycle

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The initial story about the spy dropped on October 29th, before the midterms.

At that point it was probably just a matter of time until the rest came out.

I mean it’s just much more of a favorable political environment for the board to investigate Huang. And journalists know that if there’s smoke, there’s likely fire. So it seems like a pretty natural pile-on if anything.

It is kinda weird that Jensen decided to resign so quickly though. I would’ve expected a longer investigation period involving both the board and Congress.

Democrats take charge IPO almost out the door Bubble about to pop

What people (and nations) would be able to come out clean in front of their audiences from the fallout of the above if the catalyst was Huang having an affair with an alleged Chinese spy, being interrogated by Warren, and the woke forcing him out of the company he built (whose interim CEO is female)

There’s a thread through all of that that props up a significant portion of Silicon Valley elite’s worldview…

Parallel execution in action
Need a power of 2 now
Destroying 1 trillion in value and stealing the company from the immigrant who built it from nothing literally started on a napkin in Denny’s, actual American Dream level founding story is asinine over gossip and so far empty spy accusations.
Amateur. Tiger Woods had at least 9 extramarital affairs.
I think it's easy not to seek women but when they throw themselves at you that's a different story... Maybe if the risk of adultery is too high it's better to get a divorce and stay divorced.
Might be quicker to start asking which Nvidia employees he didn't sleep with.
Amount of jensen affairs doubles every 24 hours.
Jensen has had a heck of a ride, fastest rise and fall we've seen in a while. Looks like he didn't handle the attention very well.
Fast fall, yes, but his rise has been years in the making.
I should've worded my post differently. Jensen had a fast rise as a household name and the attention that came with it. Before 2020 I doubt more than 2% of the population could've named the CEO of Nvidia.
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Wasn't exactly a fast rise. Nvidia has been growing pretty steadily for decades.

[insert joke about three rides that we know of here]

Having a cushion of $145B he won't be hurt from the fall.
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I thought attention is all you need.
To a certain point I don't really care about how many subordinates it ends up being (something tells me there are more), but it does make all of the grindset quotes CEOs like Huang barf up all the more laughable.

> “I work every day. There’s not a day that goes by that I don’t work. And if I’m not working, I’m thinking about work.”

> “I wake up at 5am, and the moment I wake up, I start working… I’m asleep probably by 9:30pm.

https://www.startuparchive.org/p/jensen-huang-there-s-hard-w...

A lot of people have said Nvidia are crazy to get rid of Huang, that he's a singular irreplaceable talent. What if, perhaps, he's not all he's made out to be?

His affairs are clearly reprehensible, but what does this have to do with how hard he works?
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This guy could get married and divorced like 8 times, lose 50% of his assets, and still be a billionaire.
Who cares.

It is so American to interlink personal affairs with business.

Man, the McCarthyist notes in the comments are pure comedy
Imagine a country that twice elected a rapist pedophile for a president clutching their pearls over a CEO that steps out on his wife.

It's a convenient distraction I guess.

I can't believe Jensen Huang popped the AI bubble with his d*ck...
Parrots another article - even w ", Report Says" as the end of the headline.

The original article is from Reuters, partially written by this woman below whose history is all Washington stories then bam 4 articles on Nvidia and tech.

https://www.reuters.com/authors/alexandra-alper/

Appears to be manipulated news (which we're used to), story is real but should be seen through that lens - why?

(This must have originally been posted to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50473868 - we've since merged the threads.)
It all lining up perfectly with their quarterly earnings call does seem like a bit of a strange coincidence at the very least.

These are also not actually new developments, but years old. So they could have easily been stockpiled ahead of time, ready to deploy when opportune. Or maybe that's just standard when you're high profile enough? It's like accumulating and strategically burning 0 days. Or trading them for that matter.

Or at least the original report was like this. These newer ones are perfectly well explained by opportunism imo, if one is to believe that the anonymous sources really are company internal.

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Jensen must be realy good at negotiating pre fuctual agreements, which he did while bieng under constant observation, nvidia budgeted 4 million a year for his personal security, and he will travel and be surrounded by personal staff, and co workers almost 24 hr's a day. So this was all out in the 'open', which some of the pics verrify. The real questions are, why now?, and will he take Elon up on the offer,'very honored to have him', work at spacex.
Who gives a damn who he is having an r-ship with. It's 2026.
One cannot even have sex with a lady nowadays without being CEO of a multi billion company.
So we are now a gossip platform?
Are they all spies or why is this important?
In a way, these multiple affairs helps him. "Hey I wasn't knowingly having an affair with a spy, I was just fucking every moving body and when you do that, one of them turned out to be a bad apple".
Now that he is the former CEO, why does it matter and why is the news cycle still hyper fixated on him?
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US elites get off on destroying people who do good for the country. This also benefits China so the Chinese government works with them to do this occasionally which they did in this case.

He’s no longer CEO which is what China wanted, but US elites can still destroy him even more and the people around him.

At how many $billion of market value should a board just figure that it's a cost of doing business to hire retired spooks to keep track of the CEO's personal life, and ensure that he has a pipeline of well-paid, background-checked, NDA-signed mistresses available to divert his eyes from the employees and spies?
Look, what happens between a billionaire CEO, three consenting adults, and a Singaporean shell company is a personal matter that should not concern us

- Hacker News

Are you claiming these additional women were involved in the Singaporean shell company issue?

Let me help you out here: You are motivated by envy and animus and these other things are rationalizations.

You would do the same thing in his position!

- Also Hacker News

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There are three "I"s in NVIDIA (latin)
I mean he's the boss of a GPU company, no surprise he's having affairs in parallel.
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These AI slop chinese soap-operas are so good...