> Arguing you can't do something because someone will be offended is also not very helpful: you can almost always find some offensive interpretation of anything

You mentioned the sorites paradox earlier. Do you think it could be applied here as well?

All: Please don't use HN for ideological battle. There are too many low-quality/predictable comments here. We want curious conversation, not sharp recitals.

I know it's hard when the topic is itself an ideological battle, but that's a good time to review the site guidelines, including this one: "Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

DEI has become unpopular, so the explicit propaganda will disappear, but I doubt the underlying policies will be removed, a lot of bureocracy depends on them.

It may also be that the Israel lobby needs to discipline protestors and DEI is on the way.

Clicked through some links in the article. Really mind boggling material. How did such garbage end up in top universities is really weird.

I think it's more than 3 times now.

I love doing engineering based off of advertising material…

Is that on Android or iOS?

I continue to be frustrated by having to use the plane's satellite internet connection (not always free) to message somebody sitting two rows away from me, so this would be great.

> There is a huge difference between trying to counter institutional prejudice in order to improve the quality of the student body and work being done.

This is the Trojan Horse, just like the fundamentalists coming to spread peace and love in society of course.

Fortunately, people are judged by outcome and action, not stated intention, and we can see DEI has failed in this regard.

Is this like a church, you have to fly in a fat Texan to sanctify the soil as American or is it more paper-based?

Nintendo's argument in the filing was that it effectively did, as the website instructed people on how to extract the keys, and that the software did real time decryption for which there was no legitimate source of keys.

That didn't get tested in court, but I suspect it would have succeeded (this is not legal advice).

I find this tongue-in-cheek commentary very amusing, especially considering the article is a perfect example of describing feel-good bikeshedding, rather than addressing actual issues that were called out (e.g. large scale farming and loss of habitat due to human development)

If you want to read more, you can start at a very high level by Googling habitat loss and industrial agriculture, I guess?

... and then not have any of your usual development tools, environment, system layout, or repair techniques because you're inside someone else's "works on my system" that they threw over the wall.

It's obviously possible to debug what goes on inside a Docker image. It's just not something I'm particularly interested in dealing with, especially under duress.

DEI (or DIE) is an example of a 'Motte and Bailey fallacy' where the actual intentions are hidden behind a façade of 'fighting institutional inequalities'.

For the true ideologues those intentions come down to the deconstruction of society which is supposed to enable its reconstruction into the 'permanent revolution' model professed by its adherents, for most others is is just a way to gain positions of power which they would otherwise not be able to gain due to their lack of skills or lack of relevant education (which does not equate to no education, there are many graduates of higher institutions of learning among those who suffer from a lack of relevant education). The scheme is to get one 'DEI expert' into organisations who will invariably find 'problems' in that organisation which 'need' to be 'addressed' by pulling in more 'DEI experts' and 'DEI consultants', thus creating a parasitical organism which feeds off the organisation without contributing anything itself.

Interesting to see that this has been flagged/dead and vouched back to life twice in 15 minutes. [update] And three times in 25 minutes.

I think "starvation deferment" is a more accurate phrase. To prevent starvation we need to address the tendency of humanity to reproduce, and to consume resources, past the limits of what we can safely and reliably sustain. Taking more and more land, and increasingly suppressing nature, to create more food on a finite Earth simply kicks the problem down the road.

I find this kind of comment neither particularly amusing nor informative. Can you elaborate on those kinds of programs and their problems instead?

Good news, the share of the world's land used for agriculture has been declining for 24 years.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-of-land-area-used-f...

Now that your objection (increased land use) has been disproven, I am sure you will come to change your outmoded, even Ehrlichian, views on human population size.

> 15 years old and still sucks

People dragged their feet on Wayland support for at least 10 years.

eye roll when are we gonna get over this Malthusian doomsaying.

Population is not the issue. Stewardship is the issue.

It applies to Yuzu because it breaks the encryption on Switch games without the copyright holder's permissions. And it's simple to argue that the encryption is for DRM purposes, like CSS for DVDs.

If only simplicity always meant easy to use. There would be no paradox if it did.

One big problem is that for any product/feature not used in isolation, simplicity without interoperability is very inflexible and limiting.

Complexity is often the result of building a lot of interoperable things or features to work (relatively) well together, or building one thing with a lot of ways to interface with it. The worst case is both - which is true for a lot of software.

The result is flexibility, but at the cost of more complexity than any particular user needs.

But is there a wider problem if people stop discussing controversial but very important topics on the Internet in general? Can something be done to fence off the low quality comments, without removing them from public view? Instead of outright banning political controversy?

The real problem was that Wayland was extremely bare-bones initially and needed many extensions to approach the usefulness of X11 for desktop use - it basically just supported dispatching input and blitting rectangles. And initially, getting extensions standardized was like pulling teeth. These days, "obvious" extensions get in in a matter of months (about one DE release cycle), not to mention that most already exist by now.

Was it a secret? You could have guessed that something advertised [0] for "AI" had some kind of SIMD. Even ChatGPT 3.5 can give relevant code to use "AI" features [1].

0: https://www.espressif.com/en/products/socs/esp32-s3

1: https://chat.openai.com/share/3e1f990d-e8eb-4e56-acbb-ad5a33...

And the "sociopaths" behind some of these programs hate criticism of the ideology behind it. Because they see the criticism as a threat to their power.

Really, this stuff can be psychological/psychiatric (no or little empathy, obsession with power and control, projective behaviors). I've experienced it first hand.

The relevant psychiatric disorders are Narcissistic Personality Disorder and Antisocial Personality Disorder, the two co-morbid produce a monstrous "malignant narcissist". Who can appear charming and charismatic in public, but horrendous psychological abuse goes on behind closed doors. So few would suspect it. It's these aforementioned "dark triad" personalities who are most attached to this authoritarian strain of woke ideology. It all feeds the ego. And their power base. Also, they fundamentally believe "might is right".

Often they will accuse others of lack of empathy, for being racist, as a means of avoiding confronting their own behavior of the same nature. They lack empathy, and they use "projective identification" to displace it on to others, denying their own problems as a small child would. Part of their psyche is stuck at an infantile level of development.

It's ~1% of the population, and I think it's actually equal between the sexes, with men using physical aggression and threats, and women using relational aggression instead. Often society fails to recognize the female offenders.

Vladimir Putin is strongly suspected to have the disorder. Stalin, and Hitler too. All of them "dark triad" personalities. https://highconflictinstitute.com/personality-disorders/puti...

It's almost like OCD in a way, they have to feel in power, they must be in control, if they don't keep the compulsion up, then they will feel worthless, almost dead inside, and that feeling of worthlessness is breakdown inducing. The disorder forces them to get extremely good at manipulating people, so they have the upper hand (power) at all times, just as a person who plays chess all day will get good at it. And they've been doing it all their life, since early childhood. They can even enjoy it, experiencing sadistic pleasure upon seeing their victims suffer.

By the way, voice recording them (if legal to do so) helps enormously, if you're the victim of it or suspect it.

Yeah, not to mention the ability to automate things.

My latest automation: when the white noise machine is on for the baby, the doorbell volume is turned down.

But we're not talking about protected classes. They did not take "extreme measures."

We're talking about large institutions adopting policies to shield themselves from potential lawsuits from protected classes.

At a level or two down from the abstraction of company size, crafting hobbies are also a reprieve from the tyranny of linters. So many programmers today believe that code is always better when it all looks identical. Consistency is a good thing, but not when it's expected to be absolute. Programming should actually allow for creativity, and where you decide to add spaces and newlines can actually add subtle but important communication as to the significance of a particular part of one's code. Most places I've worked in the last 6 or so years are obsessed with tooling and add so many lint rules that it's often impossible to merge your pull request if you decide to format your code in a way that violates the rules in some trivial way.

With woodworking, you can just do the thing. OK, I don't do woodworking myself, but both of my parents do, and I know that they don't spend their time bikeshedding or homogenizing their work. The tools they use are intended to help them accomplish something and aren't there to prevent you from doing anything.

It's possible to do personal software projects however one wants, but one will no doubt be faced with the modern compulsion to want to "do the right thing" and add a bunch of time wasting tooling. If you don't, and you share your code, inevitably someone is going to want to add a bunch of rules and bureaucracy to your software that was already working and free of serious problems in the first place.

> OpenBSD solved the time_t issue long ago.

It's amazing how quickly you can solve problems when you're fine breaking user space between releases.

Not that Linux has a perfect record, but it's much harder when you actually try.