Before anyone complains that this removes the human aspect of art, it's worth stressing that sculptors have always looked for ways to automate work and save time (as the website itself points out).

As far back as ancient Egypt, grids and measuring tools were used to reproduce figures at different scales. Roman workshops churned out copies of Greek statues in marble and bronze, using casts and moulds. From the 18th century onwards, sculptors used outright pointing machines to transfer models into marble. James Watt, the steam engine guy, even built a mechanical sculpture-copying machine that could (somewhat) automatically reproduce reliefs and medallions.

Gothic architectural decoration wasn't about expressing the inner world of its makers in the way we think of art today. Much of it was produced by large masonry workshops using standardized geometry, wooden templates and repeated designs.

So, yeah, using a CNC machine is truly Gothic.

Worth noting that the stonemasons of Sagrada Familia (the catholic basilica Barcelona) have been using CNC to carve it's stones since early 1990s. Most Barcelonians thought they would never see the temple finished in their lifetimes, myself included. Part of the progress that made its completion possible this year is thanks to this technology improving over time.

EDIT: Actually, it’s a mix of CNC roughing to shape the stone, followed by manual finishing. According to the Sagrada Família’s website, this allows each stone to remain a unique piece of craftsmanship while significantly speeding up the process.

Wow, the monks are not messing around either, they built a full monastery with cathedral and all in gothic style! https://newmountcarmelfoundation.org/building-a-mountain-mon...

I love this story. They started roasting coffee and saving money for nearly a decade, until they could buy land in the mountains, and then set out to build a medieval monastery entirely in stone and developing the CNC machining. It's amazing what people can do when they have a goal.

I've always wondered why we haven't seen a broad architectural movement returning to highly ornate decorative facades now that technology has made this kind of thing (more) possible. We could be having so much more fun in architecture right now!

Oooh this is cool. Create gothic-esque designs in stone construction using CNC. I like the apology right at the top: "medieval builders were always on the forefront of technology". Word.

Anyone who digs this should take a look at the art (and process) of Barry X Ball. https://www.barryxball.com/ https://www.instagram.com/barryxballstudio/

This is the same group of monks that run mystic monk coffee. I'm very fond of the Paradiso blend and am currently warming up to the thanksgiving blend though it wasn't my favorite at the start of the bag.

I would to love to learn more about the metals used in their drill bits. I think about oil/gas drilling and tunnel boring machines. They are facing some of the harshest conditions possible. (Imagine a tunnel boring machine trying to carve through granite rock in Manhattan or Swiss Alps. It is tough!) These CNC machines are doing similar on a "micro-scale". How often do they need to sharpen or replace these drill bits? And what is the cost?

This reminds me of the Hindu monastery on Kauai, where the monks have a laser cutter [0], they use it to make merch for the gift shop.

I believe the temple on Kauai is hand-carved, but I enjoy the contrast of monastic orders using CAD/CAM tooling. It makes perfect sense when you think of the cutting-edge tech it required to make an illuminated manuscript, for example. I suspect there have always been hacker/nerd types among those groups.

[0] https://www.himalayanacademy.com/archive-taka-single-post/?t...

Monumental Labs[0] takes a mixed approach to autonomy and human craftsmanship. For fine detail pieces like marble sculpture, the robot takes the project from stone block to a rough, 3D printed look. Then a human craftsman does fine work and polishing. For something like a plinth on a stone structure, the robot's output is good enough since the piece will only ever be viewed from afar (e.g. street level for a balcony).

[0]: https://www.monumentallabs.co/

Previously (2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33940043

I'm very surprised there is no monk order focusing on technology and programming, in a similar vein to how these guys do a lot of building. There is no reason that Catholic church shouldn't have its own holy Linux distro, social media site, streaming site, etc...

Man, I would love to get a replacement gear for my early days electronic eject external Macintosh 3.5" floppy drive made in stone instead of plastic. Heck yeah!

I’m glad to see in their advocacy of technology usage that the Carmelites are so vocal. . . ba-dum pum.

Adore everything about this

This is both incredible and I think… “misses the point” is the wrong phrase, but maybe omits something both subtle and crucial in the process.

A gothic cathedral is both an incredible work of art and also the work of hundreds or thousands of hands over decades and centuries - you are looking not just at the final product, but at the love and commitment it took to make that work of art, the long-term dedication and belief that it should exist even if we don’t live to see it exist. You’re looking at an expression of love not just for God and for art and beauty, but for future generations and people we’ll never know. The time and effort isn’t an unfortunate part of the process, it’s intrinsic to what we feel when we witness the cathedral - a connection to others, reaching both ways.

I understand why the monks have developed this technique, and I don’t disagree with them - the act of building a gothic cathedral is outside the capacity of modern society. I’ll never begrudge someone a hack to preserve some beauty in this machine we’ve created. But I can’t help but feel like they’ve created a facsimile of a cathedral - they’ve created the palace at Disneyland, not Notre Dame.

For a second I thought the guy at the computer is the CNC statue.

It would be fun to be able to order custom stone statues or artwork made like this.

I've been watching these robots carve stone on instagram for years now...

Fantastic!

Less brutalism and more classicism.

On the one hand, this would (without automation) not be possible financially or temporally in the modern world with the amount of money a church now brings in.

On the other hand, was the work not the point? The dedication to do this on behalf of one's deity?

It almost feels just short of having a machine pray on your behalf, so you don't have to. Claude or GPT perhaps?

Finally, I can write my code as it was intended.

are we not gonna talk about that dudes haircut?

It may be worthwhile noting that the medieval Carmelites have pulled off some impressive civil engineering projects in their own right. St. John of the Cross himself is credited with the design and construction of an aqueduct for their monastery in Spain.

https://www.ocarm.org/en/item/4545-st-john-of-the-cross-myst...

It may seem from our perspective that monasteries are full of prayer and spiritual endeavors, but they are also the site of a large amount of manual labor and highly-educated expertise that can be brought to bear on large projects like this.

Bunch of dudes, on mission, hardcore, locked in, and grinding. No pun intended.

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love it

Reddit Cofounder Alexis Ohanian has a startup, Monumental Labs, which is applying robotic milling to stonework. The finishing process is still done by hand and appears quite labour intensive

https://www.monumentallabs.co/work

... and the audience is too mature to mention that the internet stole the acronym Computer Numerical Control, so its often shortened to Numerical Control to make it safe to search?

When AI wipes out programming jobs over the next few years, do you think we will see a revival in the number of young men going into monkhood?

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