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tintor | on: Root shell on Samsung TV
This looks very bad on OpenAI.

What is next? Power and water company suspending your account if your home and car are not streaming enough telemetry.

I am glad that open models are closing on frontier.

technion | parent | next
Claude is absurdly sensitive to anything that touches cyber, and threatens bans if it gets a whiff of a pentest going on. it wouldnt surprise me if openai had a similar approach.

Yesterday I joked that claude gave me a cyber stop for asking how to make the anime girl video for an exploit, but it was a thing that happened. Meanwhile im trying to convince people around me that having grok nudify people isnt "fine" just because grok says it is. Its wild where the lines a drawn.

emdash | root | parent | next
Claude is so absurdly bad about false triggers for security. It kept triggering when I asked it questions about how to plant some tree saplings I got because somehow that was a security risk.

Anthropic is a joke of a company.

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LoganDark | root | parent | next
I'm in the new CVP, and even Mythos gave me a cyber stop just for creating an MCP server that can remotely connect to my Steam Frame to run commands. It must've thought I was trying to create a centralized malware or something.

Not even sure why Mythos even still exists when it's identical to Fable in every way, including refusing to do stuff that looks like it could ever be repurposed into unapproved use cases.

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fuzzythrowaway | root | parent | next
We're all naked under our clothes, I don't see the problem. One of the funniest shock-bits I've ever seen was when Jon Stewart's book on American government and history included full-frontal (Photoshopped) nudes of SCOTUS, but I guess he couldn't get away with that during the current era of Puritanical panic.

It's just an adult human body, Michael, what could it cost? One('s) dignity?

jasomill | root | parent
Tastelessness aside, this seems perfectly rational to me. Unlike reverse engineering for the purpose of developing security exploits, "nudification" doesn't meaningfully expand the capabilities of malicious actors with access to free online porn and Photoshop.
AnneTrotter | root | parent | next
Actually violating one person is fine, but doing anything associated with a specific industry that has applications for harm and help is not?

That's like saying it's fine to beat someone up and take their lunch, but it's not fine to learn how locks work.

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breakingcups | root | parent
That's one of the weirdest takes on here in a while.

I can develop security exploits myself just fine without the use of AI. Many people don't have the capability to use Photoshop and free online porn to deepfake someone else they might or might not personally know into a realistic video...

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alfiedotwtf | parent | next
With Kimi K3.1 Pro, today WAS the day they actually caught up.

I’ve been saying this for the past few months - once the inflection point happens (such as today), it’s only a matter of 2 years when American closed models won’t be able to catch up with Chinese open models

tintor | root | parent | next
Did you mean Mimo v2.6 Pro? Because Kimi K3.1 Pro is proprietary, and not open.

Also leading the frontier is much much harder than catching up to frontier.

alanfranz | root | parent | next
… IF chinese models stay open.
locknitpicker | root | parent | next
Chinese models don't need to stay open. The open weight ones just need to have nearly the same capabilities as the models sold by US companies. When that's the case, no one will have a reason to continue paying anything to any US company, thus destroying their business model and business case.
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embedding-shape | root | parent
... IF the world doesn't end tomorrow.

Yes, of course, IF a lot of things. But if we go by what the official positions of the government is, and where the ecosystem is today, then the models stay open, as they are. And today, the US models stay closed, so lets not assume "... IF they stay closed" as nothing is pointing to this changing, just like China seems to point towards staying with open models.

notrealyme123 | root | parent
Iirc They specifically trained them to not be useful in cyber stuff. But the point still holds
rustyhancock | root | parent
The Chinese models?

I have been wondering if that would be a benefit of using say GLM5.3 on HF if only to get fewer cyber stop flags.

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tosti | parent | next
Bad on OpenAI? The account got suspended.

This reflects horribly bad on Samsung!

fdw | root | parent | next
The headline is misleading, but the "article" is only five screenshots of Twitter posts. Someone used AI to decrypt the Samsung TV's firmware and found always on listening, classification, lots of privacy nightmares. Then their (the hacker's, not Samsung's) OpenAI got suspended for "Cyber Abuse".
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tintor | root | parent
I agree with you, but if OpenAI wasn't suspending users for exposing cyber-spying that these consumer companies like Samsung are doing, more and more people would expose such issues.
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