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Wow. Jeff and Sanjay both departing. Truly end of a golden era.

There is an entire cohort of work-optional very senior engineers for whom one of the last reasons for hanging on was "at least Jeff and Sanjay are around".

Literally, I am ... I don't know what to say
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Did Jeff and Sanjay pair write their resignation letter? Wow.
This just shows that the "great minds" of AI in these companies are not able to come up with anything that radically differentiates their AI than the others. Wether it is gemini or openAI or grok - meh they all are similar and at this point one can interchange one with the other , excep that Google sits right at the edge with almost every browser search query hitting the google search engine AKA Gemini on the backend and one can switch easily into chat mode right from the search page. I dare say that the google CEO has done his job and set up the cash printing machine but from the AI masterminds in Google, not a groundbreaking progress has been made.
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Isn’t alphabet an investor in their new endeavor?
Google will be considered "the new IBM" in 20 years.
> Google will be considered "the new IBM" in 20 years.

They have plenty of great tech for consumers right now: Gmail, Maps, YouTube, Chrome, Android,..

You can perhaps argue that search might suffer because of AI but they've done a great job scaling horizontally into many verticals.

I don't think Google is going anywhere.

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People have been saying that for over a decade now, and their business is still going.
Their entire business is predicated on search dominance, which is now on much shakier footing. Agreed that those comments were ridiculous pre-ChatGPT, but now they have a genuine challenger.
This take only makes sense if you don’t know what people use Google search for. If you’re looking for your local Ford dealership, or to book a Carnival cruise, or need a disability lawyer, or to refinance your credit card debt, you’re searching for an ad. You’re not using Chat-GPT for that. You’re asking Chat-GPT about a research project. It’s stealing away all the hard to monetize searches and leaving the incredibly lucrative searches.

Your narrative depressed Google’s stock price for years, and bears finally gave up since they kept coming out with huge earnings beats.

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Search is now only 50% of the revenue. But sure keep the myth going.
Cloud business is making big dollar I suppose
That’s over half of their business, but they do have some diversification with YouTube, Play Store, and cloud services.

Some of their newer efforts like Waymo and AI hosting for Apple could turn into large businesses to make up for any lost search revenue.

They also have significant costs to maintain their search revenue, such as $20B a year to Apple alone to make Google the default search engine in Safari.

If search becomes less lucrative, they would presumably pay less for such deals.

So yeah, definitely a time of disruption for Google and they need to keep moving fast on many fronts, but they are still well positioned in multiple markets to be successful.

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If by "shakier footing" you mean accelerating growth in query volume, ad impressions, revenue and earnings, I'll take it.
I disagree

A model serves a different purpose from a web crawler.

I'd prefer to be able to find source material over steering a model I have no control over while managing hallucinated outputs without the ability to fact check.

Just because it sourced some materials using RAG doesn't make its outputs valid, accurate, or factual.

> which is now on much shakier footing

Is it though? As far as I can tell they continue to maintain total domination of web search, and LLMs do not replace search engines, they work on top of them.

used to be. Cloud, Waymo, and some other bets have been paying off.
And yet, their search engine is enshittified beyond all belief.
People have been saying that for over a decade now, and their business is still going.

So is IBM.

There was a pretty interesting article in the Wall Street Journal a few weeks back about how IBM is flying under the radar, and doing well by not taking the hype bait.

It noted that 70% of all credit card transactions on the planet go through an IBM system.

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IBM is also still going, believe it or not. 260k employees, 200 billion market cap, $67 billion revenue.

I'm not sure what they do these days - it's about 20 years since I used an IBM Thinkpad to connect to an IBM pSeries.

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Isn't IBM still going?
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I dunno about going strong. $1,000 in Microsoft stock in 1990 would have made you a multi-millionaire today. $1,000 in IBM stock in 1990 would make you a ten-thousandaire today.
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IBM's business is still going so I dunno what your point is
Who knows what will happen in 20 years. Right now, it's not the case.