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chvid | on: TikTok goes dark in the US
Biden could have cut a deal with TikTok instead of this. That would have left the US with a least one major social media not in the pocket of Trump.
epolanski | parent | next
They gave bytedance plenty of time to to sell. And TikTok would've not been cheap.

I'm not a fan of the ban, mind you, but it's not like they were ordered to leave the country.

winternewt | root | parent | next
The ban is not targeted directly at TikTok but at the app stores, which will have to pay a fine of $5000 per user if they keep the app available in the store.
beowulfey | root | parent
If that were true then you would be able to log in through a browser, and you cannot.
jrochkind1 | root | parent | next
You can again where I am. Have you checked recently?

They voluntarily took it down, and now brought back up. If it remains gone from the app stores, I imagine they will eventually take it down again.

The text of the law is something you can look up yourself, we don't have to argue about it!

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/7521...

firesteelrain | root | parent
Because it’s a stunt. TikTok didn’t need to do that.
chvid | root | parent | next
As it looks now Trump will facilitate a deal within 90 days - Biden could have done that and left the US with a much healthier media landscape.

You are free to call Biden more principled but to me it looks like a shot in the foot.

suraci | root | parent
Sounds like the mafia.

I wish CPC could do the same thing to Telsa and Apple, or even to kidnap Tim Cook just like how they kidnapped Meng Wanzhou, gee, that would be thrilling

motorest | root | parent | next
> Sounds like the mafia.

You're taking a decision to protect national interests that safeguards investor's interests, and here you are spinning it with "mafia" nonsense.

Pray tell, how do you address the problem of having a totalitarian regime manipulating and spying on your whole country? Do you try to shut down the operation? Or do you argue they should continue their psyops operations because otherwise it "sounds like the mafia"?

epolanski | root | parent | next
But the Chinese actually have very stringent law that makes operating there impossible.
girvo | root | parent | next
The CCP flat out bans most western countries from even operating, and has absolutely kidnapped businesspeople (and normal civilians).
bluebarbet | root | parent
Thank you for using the correct acronym (CPC, Communist Party of China) rather than the incorrect acronym-of-the-colloquial-variant CCP, which seems to be achieving ascendancy in the discourse.

Acronyms are like variable names, we would do better to use the right one and then stick to it.

suraci | root | parent
> Thank you for using the correct acronym (CPC, Communist Party of China) rather than the incorrect acronym-of-the-colloquial-variant CCP, which seems to be achieving ascendancy in the discourse.

Glad you pointed out the details. CPC is the correct official name. If someone insists on using CCP, here's my speculation, it usually means they have been heavily influenced by anti-communist propaganda and narratives from the U.S. government, or they are deliberately using the incorrect name to be derogatory.

funny I just saw something similar in other thread:

> I will use the term Ruzzia and Ruzzians to identify the Zed regime and the Zed patriots, Ruzzian != Russian, Ruzzian = a Zed patriot, a imperialist Russian or Putin fanboy, proud to stick a Zed on his face,body or property

At least he's honest, I do appreciate that

quesera | root | parent
> If someone insists on using CCP, here's my speculation, it usually means they have been heavily influenced by anti-communist propaganda and narratives from the U.S. government, or they are deliberately using the incorrect name to be derogatory.

Do you think there's a meaningful difference between the (official) "Communist Party of China" and the (colloquial) "Chinese Communist Party"?

It seems like if derogation was the goal, you could come up with something more effective than an equivalent translation.

There's a US federal agency called the CPC. Disambiguation could be a reasonable explanation.

suraci | root | parent
there're no such thing like 'colloquial' name as CCP

it's used by the US officials by decades, and it's an old trick used by US intelligences to disturbe informations

like when you search 'CCP' and 'CPC', you'll get totally different results

'CCP' is not the colloquial name, it's the name Americans heard days and days from their government's propaganda

Let's just be honest with each other

I confess I use the name 'Amerika' to expresse certain meanings

quesera | root | parent
I see no reason to believe your version.

In English, adjectives before the noun are the usual form.

bluebarbet | root | parent
Sure, but that's not the correct usage with proper noun acronyms, i.e. ones referring to official names. The official name is the Communist Party of China.
quesera | root | parent
Fair point, but it doesn't point directly toward "intentional derogatory perversion by the US government".

Also keep in mind that the official name is not in English. And what is the standard process for nations to produce "official" foreign-language names for internal subgovernmental organizations, anyway?

Is there an official name in French, or Mandarin, for the Blue Dog Coalition?

motorest | parent | next
> Biden could have cut a deal with TikTok instead of this. That would have left the US with a least one major social media not in the pocket of Trump.

This take is extremely disingenuous.

TikTok is a espionage and propaganda vector currently controlled by China's ruling regime. The only decision at this point is whether China continues to operate their propaganda and intelligence operation with free reign within the US. The only question at this point is whether Trump is in the pocket of the CCP.

TikTok's propaganda is clearly targeting Trump. I mean, ByteDance rejected a sale and instructed TikTok to unitalerally turn the lights off and post messages on how Trump was their savior. This is extremely transparent. There is nothing Biden could do to counter this.

What makes your take extremely disingenuous is the fact that you are arguing that Biden should fold to the CCP's pressure to continue their propaganda and intelligence campaign within the US, and you're trying to frame this somehow as keeping a major social not in the pocket of Trump. As if Trump is the issue.

Ferret7446 | parent
What are you referring to? The majority of news media are left leaning.
redeux | root | parent | next
That's simply untrue and has been for a long time. Between Sinclair, Fox, and Twitter, more Americans consume far right media than left leaning media. Reality way have a well known liberal bias, but the American news media does not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_stations_owned_or_oper...

https://deadline.com/2024/12/cable-news-ratings-2024-fox-new...

fidotron | root | parent | next
> That's simply untrue and has been for a long time. Between Sinclair, Fox, and Twitter, more Americans consume far right media than left leaning media.

Pedantic, but that's not the same thing as the parent claim.

Consumers consuming more from one end does not mean that there isn't more of the other.

bluebarbet | root | parent
>Reality way have a well known liberal bias

This was unnecessary and undermines your otherwise valid point.

llm_nerd | root | parent
Are people really still claiming this?

Epstein friend Donald Trump is a rapist, felon, charity-stealing serial liar with a God complex. He is an undeniably stupid man who has a hilarious blindness to his own idiocy. His first term was one disaster after another. His second is likely to end the American Empire: If it doesn't lead to the dissolution of the Union, it will destroy America economically and geopolitically. The era of China's dominance begins tomorrow.

The majority of news media, including supposedly "Liberal" venues like the NYT, have been sane washing this corrupt trashman for the years. That he got the nomination and then won the election was entirely courtesy of a bought and paid for media. There is literally no low that is even really notable any more -- oh look, the felon conman launched a new shitcoin crypto to extract billions more from the presidency...eh, whatever -- yet any misstep by his opponents received nonstop coverage.

The US is toast. Short of a literal armed revolution or armies of Luigis, your country is done. It has been overthrown by the stupid who are being levered by the oligarchs.

And just to be clear, US politics has been astonishingly corrupt for decades. We all knew it. This is the end result. It's the Stage 4 cancer that is the end of the line for the US political system. It was an inevitable idiocracy.