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> I guess it explains the haste Anthropic and OpenAI are in to IPO, cash out and leave the the retail investor holding the bag.

I don't think so. LLM inference enjoys huge economies of scale. At no point in the foreseeable future will a local model be able to compete with a cloud model in terms of price. Local models will have the privacy angle, but very few people will be willing to pay top dollar for that. There will be some people, for sure, but the vast majority will just use cloud models.

> LLM inference enjoys huge economies of scale

Does it actually? Sure, it is operating at huge scale and this design choice allows enormous models (presumably enormous MoE models). But is it achieving economies of scale?

Economies of scale are rooted more in the idea of a profitable thing becoming broadly sustainably cheaper as the market grows, allowing cheaper manufacturing and further growing the market.

The big two or three LLMs are cheap because they are substantially subsidised by investor cash, and they are not profitable at all in any sustainable sense: the current pricing can only be sustained for as long as they can raise money, and the market will (and does!) shrink when it is asked to pay a less-subsidised price.

There appears to me to be no route to true profitability for this design strategy at all. Even the open weights router companies are downstream of largesse from state-affiliated companies.

Why do you need huge economies of scale though? For 90%? of queries a local model will be good enough?
You'll still need a cloud AI subscription for the remaining 10%, so you might as well enjoy the superior performance. If you're cost sensitive, models like Deepseek have you covered.
For inference alone they get far better utilization of the hardware because they can keep it fully loaded with maximum concurrency. Other than that they get to collect a lot of data for training.
Well beside for roleplaying, local models are a bit useless, especially the ones running on end user class hardware.

Maybe when chip would infer at 10-20x the speed of a 5090 RTX, otherwise it's really..bad.

Most people just Google something or use the free ChatGPT. They have no clue how the answers get there and frankly would be just as pleased with GPT 4o as they would be with Astra. Questions like “what does this light mean on my dashboard” or “which bidet is best”.
Eh, I don’t know about that. With current Sonnet API pricing, an M5 Max w/ 128 GB can break even in a few months.

Qwen flash-next is at least as good as Sonnet for my uses, and the speed is perfectly acceptable.

I really think the big labs are going to soon start feeling pricing pressure for everything smaller than Opus-tier models, and it will come for those next.

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My guess is it will probably be both. There was a time when no one could envision computing without the mainframe.

In the mainframe's heyday, it was difficult to grasp a world in which compute became so dense and so cheap that it made sense for each individual to have all processing and memory on their desk, talk less of on their lap and in their hand.

Of course this time could be different. But, when we look at previous relentless progress in compute and efficiency, then also couple that with the breakthroughs AI itself unlocks, it's hard for me to imagine that centralized AI will meet both the scale and flexibility desired for all use cases.

Just as centralized compute never fully disappeared -- it took the form of client-server computing and the cloud, there's no question that centralized inference will continue to exist.

But it wouldn't surprise me if, ten years from now, 90% of global inference happens at the client.

While simultaneously, the 10% of inference that takes place in the datacenter is wildly lucrative and orders of magnitude greater than today.

Put simply: the inference pie may become so large that both client and datacenter win.

> Put simply: the inference pie may become so large that both client and datacenter win.

Beyond inference, even local HPC or large in-memory workloads. Steve Jobs dreamed that the NeXT Computer could be used to cure cancer in a dorm room (whatever tha tmeans), and I guess a bunch of Mac Studios chained together wouldn't be bad for a lot of computationally tough biomedical "basic science" applications.

Normie queries can be handled quite well by Haiku 4.6 or whatever.

What new bike should I get? How should I rephrase this email? What to do about my persistent headaches? Recipes based on these ingredients?

Small models inherently have less pre-trained knowledge, which will hurt their performance on queries like this. Moreover a lot of queries benefit from doing web searches, especially if they need to respond to changing conditions such as your bike example. Now you have to send data through a data center anyway for good performance, and probably need to use an API if you don’t want your computer blocked. So what’s the point, when GPT Luna exists if you really want to get a decent model at a rock-bottom price?
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Unless cloud PCs take off and kill "AI PCs" and the future of the end-user hardware market, I think it'll be a bit of both.

It'll become easier and more affordable to distill/train/optimize smaller local models to meet your specific work needs. Multi-agent efforts will orchestrate the balance between using on-prem hardware for most tasks, and then defer to cloud models for more demanding/edge-case tasks. Especially if an organization can manage what data is shared with which model, and most of their user base are everyday casual users.

I also expect cloud providers to eventually start charging different rates for on-peak and off-peak usage, which would incentivize running what you can with the local compute you have otherwise sitting idle across dozens to hundreds to thousands of machines in your fleet.

Anthropic just changed their policy to invalidate any unused credits without refund if you buy your API credits annually. I see that as a sign of unpredictable budgets for cloud models for customers.

I could be wrong and all your future hardware purchases for end-users will be thin clients, without the local processing capabilities of today's laptops and towers. I don't see the hardware manufacturers profiting much from that, but maybe we'll see more companies like AMD declaring they prioritize cloud compute customers over everything else.

With a hardware refresh for cloud computing every 3-5 years, we'll likely see today's compute hardware driving Opus and Sol available on the secondary market for companies willing to build more on-prem capabilities.