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Starlink Mini 2

https://starlink.com/mini-2
We bought a Starlink Mini for the use case of frequent travel to far-off (international) places with limited mobile service, where we occasionally need to get online for high-priority work tasks or meetings. For $55 / month for 100GB and flexible usage in many countries, it was extremely useful.

Then, recently, SpaceX changed the terms such that the 100GB and 300GB subscriptions are no longer usable internationally (technically outside of North America). You have to pay for the unlimited service tier and even then can only use it for 30 days before returning to the home region.

A huge decrease in utility and a tripling in cost. A new device with a built-in battery is definitely not going to make up for that.

(Still a great service when it works, am posting this from remote western Mongolia.)

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Sounds like you got musked
In fairness to Musk (not a phrase I say often) it also sounds like just about every internet provider out there. As soon as you get used to your plan there’s a new fee or restriction out of nowhere.
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This has completely changed my industry (hard rock mining). A lot of the time drillers would be in the middle of nowhere looking for resources and would be sometimes days away from providing results (which also lead to lots of dodgy situations where drillers would know some results before market…) now it’s instant live feed. It’s made revising drilling plans trivial. Very cool
I work at a remote sub-arctic hard rock mine. Almost a decade ago when I started there was a single a 25mbps downlink shared between the business and 800 on-site people's personal rooms. I oftentimes couldn't get a message to family to send during the evening fury. Starlink was an incredible change in quality of life.
Also in mining - Iron Ore - and yeah they are an absolute game changer in our remote sites.

I've got deep concerns about the politics side of the company, and the future implications of them being able to decide where and who gets coverage. But from a technology perspective it's doing things I didn't really think were possible a decade ago. Having signal in the bottom of the pit, or way out the back of the Pilbara is just crazy.

The un/expected uses for Starlink are interesting, especially because of how primitive the pre-Starlink work-arounds were (and because some things simply weren't possible).

When most of the Earth's surface has internet, it will be hard to imagine what life was like when it didn't.

I’ll remember it fondly. The primitive workarounds were often a fun challenge even as an individual. But I’m glad more people can get connected so easily, and with more options on the way. The world will never be the same
Clay Shirky said “Communications tools don’t get socially interesting until they get technologically boring.”

I recently had a gig collecting soil samples in rural Alberta, and we relied on Starlink to upload the data as we worked.[0]

It was surreal trundling through a remote farmer’s field in a skid-steer with a funny-looking square dish on top, surrounded by a herd of bison or cattle.

Stepping outside of the machine to take a piss on a tree and hearing the motors in the dish whir as it repositions itself to get a better connection was startling and neat. It’s one thing to read about the dishes having that functionality but another to experience it while you’re doing something as mundane as a basic bodily function.

Pulling the dish and the mount off the skid-steer and tossing it in the back of the truck, and seeing the off-the-shelf Ryobi battery and inverter that powered it, all scuffed up and covered in dirt, makes you realize that as magical as it is right now, it’s just a machine. People thought that transistor radios were pretty magical when they came out but eventually they just became an everyday thing.

Soon enough these things won’t be so big and expensive, and there will be a market of providers offering even better service. What comes then will be scary from a privacy perspective, but it may also enable so many positive things that we can’t yet imagine.

“The most profound technologies are those that disappear.”

[0] https://imgur.com/a/gkUAHOn

I'd love to hear about some of the workarounds. Garmin?
> When most of the Earth's surface has internet, it will be hard to imagine what life was like when it didn't.

I think we'll miss it. I've known both the "pre-connected" and "post-connected" eras. There's a lot to love about being "connected".. and a lot to not like. Constant connectivity kind of sucks and we'd all do better to detox/disconnect meaningfully every so often.

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did your industry not have access to satellite radio/internet prior to this for some reason? I was working on "cloud connectivity for remote mining sites" at least twelve years ago, and we were late to enter the market.
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I wanted to get one so bad because I’m a very frequent travelled and the idea of Starlink sounded so interesting

I just checked a few weeks ago and “Roam” does no longer include international coverage at all. Only “Roam unlimited” does, and only for 30 days at a time which entirely defeats the purpose for me. Also no way to replenish this quota or buy additional, you have to go back to your country for it to reset.

My SIM card already gives me 14 days of roaming included, so Starlink is just marginally better for my use case.

I’m sure it’s regulations related but still a bummer :(

Unless you are always traveling to off-the-grid locations an international roaming eSIM will be a lot better for this use case.
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Recently, I've been watching ultramarathon races (Western States, UTMB, Javalina Jundred, etc.) live online. All of them have been doing live video shots of the race leaders with a camera man on a mountain bike using a Starlink Mini on the back (with networking gear and batteries in a backpack). This new Starlink Mini 2 will be a more compact solution for the cameraman and possibly give the producers of the live broadcast more options and maybe more interesting shots.
I want so badly for starlink to offer a sensible well priced self-service B2B offering with fleet management. Any kind of fixed, high bandwidth IoT device that currently has a SIM card could easily use a starlink. As it stands SMBs who want this have to screw around with residential starlink and live in fear that they’ll get banned.
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And it seems to have a normal USB-C port now! Excellent, having to order that old weird cable of theirs was a pain, especially when one broke out in the wild.
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Starlink Mini improved the power consumption a lot. Does Starlink Mini 2 improve things further? The page lacks specs.

I read elsewhere the battery has 71Wh and lasts 4.5h. That's 15.77W/h if it indeed uses 100% of the battery's capacity.

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They should totally sell a foldable solar panel for the ultimate offgrid set-it-and-forget-it internet solution.
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Removable battery is cool. Does "quick-swap" mean you can switch the battery while it's operating? I always thought it would be a good idea for devices like this to have a tiny secondary battery or large capacitor in the main unit that would let it keep going for a few seconds while you swap the main battery.
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Starlink Mini 1st has been on 'clearance' for $149 for a while. Wonder if this is a worthwhile upgrade for truck camping or if the Mini 1 is still a good deal. No indication on price yet?
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Got a lot of usage with my Mini when traveling across the southwestern US and Mexico, but they no longer allow travel usage outside US/Canada which is a huge bummer and forced me to switch back to cell coverage which isn’t nearly as good.
Starlink is an interesting option for RVs, but I can't use it because they don't offer static IPs or even ip addresses that aren't behind NAT.
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It seems like the launch requires purchasing it with a bundled 1 year subscription for $999. I hope they sell it standalone like the old Mini. I'm planning to pick one up to have as primarily backup internet and just pay the standby fee to have it paused as needed.
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Because this is so useful to several industries, governments absolutely cannot let Elon maintain a monopoly on what may become fundamental infrastructure. We've already seen what happened in Ukraine.
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This is great for national park. I've been looking for a portable network device that can be attached in my car for a long time.
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Smart. Everywhere we take the Mini we also haul a portable battery. A fun thing we did a few times was that we took the whole thing on a weekday to Golden Gate Park and my wife and I worked while my daughter and grandparents played around and saw things and then they came back and we ate lunch and they went back around to see stuff. Lots of fun.

Park was practically empty and it was a bright and sunny day.

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This is nice if you want to be able to work remotely, but for purely emergency purposes is it materially better than sending iMessage over satellite?
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Maybe it's just me, but the heart of going camping, adventuring, out into the wild, going to the beach, etc (essentially, getting away from it all), seems in nearly direct opposition to having internet at every single one of these places.
I often work from campsites. I no longer have to rely on if there is 4/5G signal, and can borrow a family members Mini (and pay for a month of service).

That means I can now head out on Wednesday after work, drive 3-5 hours to the middle of no-where, and work Thursday and Friday. But each of those days, I am able to be done working and then at a camping site with my family. Go on hikes, fish, swim, etc.

So now my whole family can enjoy being in the wild, and I don't have to burn up vacation days. And we don't have to try to jam it all into a weekend were you feel like your just travelling the whole time.

Side note.. Having no signal on the west coast can actually be extremely dangerous, with how fast some wild-fires have spread. You can have one 10 miles away and not know it with the wind blowing the other way, and if it shifts direction, you can have a very limited time and path to get away.

Being able to check tools like WatchDuty and weather reports from the middle of nowhere is a safety feature.

Long before Starlink I actually tried something similar: book a hotel or airbnb in a place with good natural beauty. Work remote for the day, log off promptly at 5pm and then go on a hike or bike ride. I felt that I did not enjoy it at all. Work is emotionally draining enough that the quality of an after-work hike is far below a hike on a weekend. I stopped doing that.
I feel the same. But doing a half day each works great for me.

Ski 8-noon, then work in the warm.

Desert hike 6-10 then work in the cool.

That way if work is engaging - maybe you get into a nice flow state - you can keep going into the evening and your body already got the outdoors it likes.

I really like this mode a lot.

I have done a variation on this. Take a vacation, drive to a national park, and go camping. Then go to an airbnb with good natural beauty, work thursday and friday, go hiking on the weekend, then take a travel day to come home.

This allowed me to take a longer vacation while still separating work time from hiking time. The emotionally draining work days coincided with much-needed recharge time in between the strenuous camping/hiking days and the weekend of more hiking.

I had coworkers who worked east coast hours but lived on the west coast, so they were off at 2 every day. A lot of them initially had all kinds of plans for what they would do with their free afternoons, but in the end, seemingly all of them did about what those of us who work til 5 do after work, just with an earlier bedtime.
I worked with the reverse! Boss was on the west coast and I on the east. Honestly much preferred it. Having the open morning and starting work after a no-rush breakfast, some exercise, etc. was divine.
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Thats a good observation - the capacity to appreciate something is probably as important as just being (in this case) in a beautiful space.
Different strokes for different folks. One of my favorite vacations involved working out of hotels during the day and driving around the Colorado Rockies in the afternoon/evening.
Workation doesn't work...
It does, you just have to make it long enough to have time to explore and weekends. My fave time are month+ workations.
You can still go on hikes on the weekend
Sure, but in the parent's post, the family is able to enjoy the camp time, and they're able to somewhat enjoy the time, not have to drive 3-5h on Friday during rush hour when everyone else is doing the same, and not have to turn around and pack up camp <48h later.

I've had good and bad remote work vacations. My best was when I was able to link together 11 days out of town and only have to work 2 of them.

Same. I've done what parent post said with much success, but when I try to make it my own vacation, it's always short. It is nice to let the family enjoy it though
But you know what I’m gonna call this for what it is. Greed. Everyone wants everything all the time. But what cost are we paying for that? Astronomers can’t view the night sky anymore. And not to mention the power we give an oligarch.
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Does your partner not work or do you got additional care? Who is taking care of the kids or are they old enough to mind themselves while you’re working?

This sounds ideal but my kid is too young to not require me not working. Maybe in the future for me.

may I ask, how is your productivity in this arrangement, I suppose you are not wilderness camping correct?
The family aspect is the crux here for me...it's great to get the family out enjoying things while us poor saps left back at the campsite just enjoy a slightly different view behind our laptop screen for most the day.
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Better than not, I guess. But it would better still to have more vacation days (if you're American, then most of the world probably has twice as many as you do)
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A co-worker of mine is traveling to parks all around the country and basically camping full-time. StarLink on his fifth wheel allows him to work during business hours and then walk off into a forest at 5pm.
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Man, I literally just set up my Starlink Mini about 2 hours ago.
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I use Starlink on my small boat near shore in PNW - where there is no mobile network, works perfect, DC cable is inconvinience, battery is much more useful imo. Great upgrade
Starlink attached to solar drone. That sounds super interesting.
The upside of Starlink is it’s not easily blockable by a terrestrial nation state; the downside of Starlink is it’s easily blockable by a single fickle trillionaire. That first problem’s been a bear to work around for the entire Internet era, that second one’s gonna be the challenge going forward.
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Excited to see how the huge cottage industry of people trying to package minis into weapons systems react to this. It looks like it'll be slightly more of a pain in the ass than the previous version but maybe Elon threw the MIC a bone and made them disassemble-able

Yes, this is really a thing, yes, I'm being sarcastic.

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I want one of these magic internet rectangles especially now that they have a battery.

Do you know if they offer a sort of pay as you need it plan like when you go out of town you can just buy bandwidth in blocks and use as needed?

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Cool, they hijacked the browser back button. That's a requirement for anybody I do business with.
In this AI Age, it surprises me that no nerd has hook SDR to the chatbot and Reverse engineer the Starlink, and further, enjoy the free internet.
Comrade, what is SKU number for the Ratnik version?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratnik_(program)

Why does it need that little stand?
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Very soon is going to be top1 present for birthday
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For some reason this page tanks my CPU and slows down my PC to a crawl. On Omarchy/Brave browser.
4.5 hours on battery surprised me - cool that it's built in, but yeah these things are power hungry. 25-35W kinda surprised me.

I guess it makes sense, space is a long way away after all...

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would be useful if it could also reverse charge your phone
I'm deeply disappointed in this company's leadership and refusal to continue launching commercial payloads
This is false. SpaceX still plans to launch commercial payloads, but it is shifting these missions from Falcon 9 to Starship. SpaceX has already sold commercial missions for Starship.
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Stop ruining the heart of camping, Musk. Camping is fun because it's internetless
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Must we do the tribal political affiliation signalling on every HN post that vaguely involves Elon Musk?

We're left wing. Elon's right wing. We've got our knickers in a twist because an influential person dares to have a worldview different from our own. But must we broadcast this? Every time?

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Amazon is actively building a competing constellation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Leo

They have about 400 satellites already in orbit. It's not available for public sale yet but I believe they're close.

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He didn't switch it off. Either:

  * It was Starlink, and putting it on offensive weaponry is against the T&Cs. That's not Musk's whim. That's just the rules.

  * It was Starshield, in which case it was the Pentagon that throttled its access, since Starshield is controlled by the Pentagon not Elon Musk
Or, it was Starshield and Elon did shut it off as all the current reporting indicates, and ergo SpaceX should be nationalized.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/10/22/us/politics/starshield-ou...

No one cares about your politics, head over to reddit bud.