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I actually really like that pricing strategy. It's very transparent
Developers on this orange site never ever learn.
What are you talking about? This is one of the most honest offers ever made by a corporation. “We’ll use your data, and we’ll compensate you for it.” Where is the problem?
I agree. I don’t mind you training on my data if you’re up front about it and you are willing to compensate me for it in some way. And if I don’t like the deal, I can always pay full price or use a different model.
Because they want to play teams and act like there's "good" companies,

all the while they throw their bank account and whatever they want at GPT or Claude models.

I love the idea of this pricing strategy but there is no way meta is not training on your data regardless of your monthly invoice
So you think the only difference between the $1.25/million token plan and the $0.10/million token plan is that you pay them more to both lie to you and breach their contractual obligation to you?
"they 'trust me'. dumb fucks."

The only difference between students doing it then and professionals doing it now is the students had no positive, glaring reason to mistrust.

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when has Meta ever not broken their contractual obligations (I am being serious here)? are we seriously discussing/expecting any sort of privacy related to Meta?

you can pay whatever they want, they will train and use your data, I figured this is not something that should be discussed but obviously I have been mistaken...

> when has Meta ever not broken their contractual obligations (I am being serious here)?

If you are being serious, then you have a wildly distorted view of the world. No organisation can routinely break all of their contractual obligations. If you think Meta are doing this then you are not seeing Meta, you are seeing a fictional bogeyman.

This is one of those situations where we are both completely baffled by the position held by the other person.

The fact that Facebook has so much experience taking advantage of people's private data is one of the reasons I believe them when they say they won't be doing it when you pay them for that service.

> The fact that Facebook has so much experience taking advantage of people's private data is one of the reasons I believe them when they say they won't be doing it when you pay them for that service.

To me, their history suggests that they know more than most about how to get away with breaking both the spirit and the letter of the rules, and that they are motivated to enrich themselves without regard for what rules are broken.

I would not know which to expect, spirit or letter, in any given instance.

However, even if they were to surprise me by being perfectly meticulous about the letter of the rules from now on, I have so little trust in them that I would expect some technicality somewhere in the language of the contract.

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How does money change that trust? They certainly have breached their word on this in the past (for non-paying users of Facebook).
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I respsct the F out out you and all your work but I am completely baffled by this line of thinking, we are talking about Meta here…
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