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Not sure what your point is? Those things can both be true.

Or should the discourse in a diverse community like HN only reflect the positions you personally hold?

Tell me how a 'nExT toKeN prEdIcTor' can make breakthroughs in math or play a game of chess. These activities aren't pure symbol manipulation, they require actual understanding at some level.
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Eh, I'm not going to litigate your claims.

My point is it's silly to whine that HN is a place where multiple points of view on the topic are aired out and discussed.

If you want a personal echo chamber where only your own beliefs are affirmed and anything else is flagged off or downvoted, I'm sure you can go find one or, worst case, vibe code one into existence.

Fair so let me be clear. I’m whining because the “next token predictor” reductionist point of view has been wrong and is only growing more wrong with time. Clearly these things can do things that actually matter. Do you disagree?
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