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Eh, I'm not going to litigate your claims.

My point is it's silly to whine that HN is a place where multiple points of view on the topic are aired out and discussed.

If you want a personal echo chamber where only your own beliefs are affirmed and anything else is flagged off or downvoted, I'm sure you can go find one or, worst case, vibe code one into existence.

Fair so let me be clear. I’m whining because the “next token predictor” reductionist point of view has been wrong and is only growing more wrong with time. Clearly these things can do things that actually matter. Do you disagree?
Even now you're engaging in this discussion as though I'm trying to litigate your point and that somehow forcing me to concede is, what, winning? I don't know.

I get the impression you want me to concede that the particular points of view you disagree with aren't worthy of representation here on HN.

I'm not going to do that.

I just prefer HN comments to be better reflections of reality. There is an unspoken expectation here that people here know what they’re talking about especially when it comes to technical matters. The rise of LLMs has given way to a HN branded populism that willingly denies reality as well. “Next token predictor” truthism is just so dumb and completely ignores the reality of what these tool are able to do. Smash that upvote button every time it feels good if you want but it’s just a meaningless take at this point. It won’t help you predict anything that’s coming.

Since we disagree on the present let’s informally do a “remind me 2 years” to this discussion and see what’s happened then.

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