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VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare

https://blog.cloudflare.com/voidzero-joins-cloudflare/
"Vue.js: JavaScript MVVM made simple (vuejs.org)" February 3, 2014: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7169288

Evidently Evan You was an Art History + Studio Art and major and at Parsons School he had to pick up javascript to quickly show his work. During a stint at Creativelab5 at Google, he was so inspired to improve on AngularJS experience that he came up with Vue and the rest is history.

I have no idea what this Cloudflare acquisition will ultimately mean but I know I am so very grateful for the beautiful frameworks/tooling Evan and his team have cranked out over the years.

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These acquisition announcements always leave me uneasy. There’s a lot of hand waving, “nothing will change and our roadmap will stay the same!” but we can all do basic math and understand that’s not how business works.

As an aside, I have to use Cloudlare at work and it’s a pretty awful experience for the medium sized org I’m at. “Hostile UX” is a common complaint. Maybe they should invest money in competing with Vercel on UX/DX instead of acquiring open source projects.

sorry to hear that's been your experience. i actually joined through an acquisition about a year ago and one of the main things we've been focused on is the dashboard and overall dx.

sadly "hostile ux" is a phrase i've heard more than once and we're working hard to improve. if you're open to it, would love to hear more about the issues you've be running into

The dashboard UX has improved a lot lately but one thing that drives me absolutely nuts is that I get rate limited all the time using it.

For example, I had to recently change an env var we had on a handful of apps and opened them all into new tabs and made the changes and about half way through I started getting rate limited. This has happened to me many times and I've reported it to support and in Discord but it still happens.

One other big complaint is support is non-existent. We sent many support emails (on business plans) and I'm pretty sure we've never gotten a reply. Same for posting in Discord. It's pretty disheartening to build your business on Cloudflare and have no confidence support will help you when you need it.

yeah you should definitely not be getting rate limited, sorry this is annoying you're not the first to report i will dig in.

as far as support, i know there is a huge effort going on right now to improve response time and support in general, also I'm not as active in discord as I ought to be there's just so much noise, feel free to ping me on there directly if I can help brandon/@ygwyg. can't promise it'll be an instant response but I will respond

You'd be forever my hero if you solve the rate limiting thing! One time I couldn't fix a production issue because I opened too many tabs.

Thanks Brandon!

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I love Vite, when I don’t forget it exists in my projects. It took things that made you feel mentally deficient and made them almost zero-config.

This news does not make me happy.

Same with the news about Astro earlier this year.

I know it must be good for the people how have made the projects (why else would they chose to do it?) but there is something in those acquisitions that makes me uneasy.

> I know it must be good for the people how have made the projects (why else would they chose to do it?) but there is something in those acquisitions that makes me uneasy.

Same, kind of conflicting. Happy for the individuals involved, they've probably more than earned it. Slightly sad about what comes next, as I'm guessing both you and me seen this happen so many times before, and we've learned to read past the always-reiterated "Nothing will change, everything keeps on being great forever".

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Congrats to the team.

I appreciate Cloudflare's loud positive proclamation here wrt the OS future; I know scepticism is warranted with some takeovers but although there might be a trend towards Cloudflare fit over the long term that's very different from closing down or abandonment so this generally seems positive to me - best wishes to all parties.

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Big fan of Cloudflare and a bigger fan of vite. Probably one of the best outcomes for the latter.
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I love how they always make it sound like this is by choice.

"VoidZero is joining Cloudflare"

As if they chose to do that. Yes, they agreed to it, but in the end it was just a huge financial transaction.

But i guess "Cloudflare buys VoidZero" just sounds less friendly. Even though that is exactly what happened.

> As if they chose to do that. Yes, they agreed to it,

That is the definition of making a choice.

This is some incredible mental backflipping to suggest that their choice wasn’t their choice.

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Yes, people love to blame the Microsoft's, Google's, Apple's and co.

However the poor guys also have to legally accept being bought.

Lets not pretend they aren't putting money into the bank.

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