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In general, people are going to interpret this EO with their own lens. Unsurprisingly, reasonable people may disagree on the merits of the EO as a whole.

However this part of the EO is pretty concerning

> 'The President and the Attorney General, subject to the President’s supervision and control, shall provide authoritative interpretations of law for the executive branch'

and later

> 'No employee of the executive branch acting in their official capacity may advance an interpretation of the law as the position of the United States that contravenes the President or the Attorney General’s opinion on a matter of law'

This can potentially enable an end run around congress and the courts in that the President can easily choose to interpret laws in a manner inconsistent with the intent of congress and courts. Now, we can argue the point and say that presidents have already done so in the past and that congress/courts should have been more specific. However it quickly gets into the issue of the impossibility of congress or the courts anticipating and specifying every detail to avoid a 'hostile' interpretation.

This part of the EO says the president's opinion is the law as far as the executive branch is concerned. Given that the executive branch implements the law, this would imply that the president's interpretation is all that matters. The other two branches have no real role left to play. Given the supreme court's ruling on presidential immunity, this is a dangerous level of power concentration.

Even if you support the current president's goals and objectives, setting up the president as the sole power center is an inherently unstable system. Nothing prevents the next president from having a radically different opinion. There is a very good reason why the founding fathers built in an elaborate system of checks and balances.

Even with a highly sympathetic Supreme Court it is hard to imagine this EO standing.

It goes against the foundation of not only US law, but couple of hundred years of international democratic tradition in which allegiance is not to a person, but to the nation itself.

US civil servants and military alike swear an oath to support and defend the Constitution not the president or their commander. Illegal orders are not only expected, but required to be disobeyed.

This EO eliminates the concept of an illegal order since the law would be whatever the executive interprets it to be.

> it is hard to imagine this EO standing

There are many things that I thought would not survive the scrutiny of good people within the system of checks and balances.

But here were are. It seems that "good people within the system of checks and balances" were the only obstacle to absolute power.

There used to be competing centers of power. But then they stacked the judiciary and used manipulative propaganda to turn the congress and senate into a rubber stamp. The only check on power was having the interest of those institutions not aligned with each other, for them to have power that they were able to exercise independently.
> It goes against the foundation of not only US law, but couple of hundred years of international democratic tradition in which allegiance is not to a person, but to the nation itself.

The United States had a spoils system of government administration until at least the late 1800s. The spoils system was still prevalent in many state and city governments until the mid 1900s.

This didn't mean officials were permitted to violate the law, but self-dealing and bald partisanship in administration was rampant, and of course violations of the law often went unpunished as administration officials had (and have) discretion to prosecute.

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This EO eliminates the concept of an illegal order since the law would be whatever the executive interprets it to be.

How do you come to that to conclusion, especially in the context of the EO?

This EO doesn't change the Constitution's requirement that the President "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed".

I'm not a lawyer but I would interpret this EO to say "it is the job of the President to execute the laws passed by Congress" and "the President may employ subordinates in that execution", however "these subordinates must still execute based on the President's interpretation, not their own".

The EO has a long section on "independent agencies which operate without Presidential supervision". This is what the EO clarifies.

> This EO eliminates the concept of an illegal order since the law would be whatever the executive interprets it to be.

This isn't true at all. This EO doesn't change the fact that President is held accountable by the judicial branch for following the law.

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> This EO eliminates the concept of an illegal order since the law would be whatever the executive interprets it to be.

Isn't this exactly how it works? They interpret it and that stands unless challenged in court.

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> It goes against the foundation of not only US law, but couple of hundred years of international democratic tradition in which allegiance is not to a person, but to the nation itself.

Yes. It does.

But there is an older Big Man tradition where loyalty to the nation is indistinguishable from loyalty to the person, the Big Man).

I naively thought that that was a stage that democracies passed through (we see it a lot in the South Pacific - the Big Man.

So sad. So terribly sad. We all like to tease Americans for being this and that, but now it feels like punching down.

Good luck to you all - Dog bless.

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It’s pretty amazing. A few days ago someone posted a comparison of the oath of allegiance for officers before and after Hitler, and it has basically exactly the same change.
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If the Supreme Court and Congress has no enforcement power, though, what recourse is there?
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I think this is what the second amendment was about
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That sounds pretty obviously unconstitutional. I don't see how a reasonable person could disagree actually. The whole point of the checks and balances is to prevent this.
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who could have seen this coming
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Ultimately, I expect this to be taken to the Supreme Court and reigned in.
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