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Trump is America incarnate and that's something that's only just starting to be properly discussed. We can't reckon with him or avoid him because he is this country, in spirit and in soul. A morally bankrupt opportunist that uses and discards everything it can, and cloaks it all in slick business attire and insipid, empty words. Loud, stupid, ignorant, bigoted, and proud of all four because it has the money enough to make sure it never needs to explain itself to anyone. Believes in absolutely nothing beyond what can benefit him in that moment, and if it changes, he'll turn on a dime. If the phrase "fuck you got mine" was turned into a real boy by some sick wizard, it would be Trump.

Until we reckon with our true national spirit, which is Donald J. Trump, we cannot kill the movement behind him because that IS America, in a very literal sense.

And people who may not be that, and yet voted for him are not very bright. There are a lot of them, women included.
Can you please dial down the patronising sexism? Women have a right to vote, and it is not your call to declare if their decision is OK or not.
Sorry, I didn't mean to be patronizing. I simply said that because, roe v wade didn't bother the women (who are more affected by it) who voted for him.
Look I don’t know how to fly a helicopter but if I saw someone crash one into a tree, I can fairly confidently say he fucked it up.

In the same way as if you’re a woman who voted voluntarily for a man explicitly campaigning on policies that will harm you, you fucked up.

Again, that is your claim and your opinion. That doesn't mean you are eligible to decide what other people in your democracy are supposed to vote. NO, simply no. In fact, this attitude is a reason why liberals are struggling with support of the common man. You're basically implying that these women, that didn't vote like you wanted, are too stupid to realize what they did. This is plain and outright patronisation mixed with a heavy dose of old-school sexism. Stop it, you are making a fool of yourself and your political friends.
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> he is this country, in spirit and in soul.

He is half of this country. That is a very important distinction.

Less than 1/3 of eligible voters voted for him 77/244 million https://bipartisanpolicy.org/explainer/10-things-to-know-202...
It's half of the people, it's the whole country. Our systems, the way we organize society, the behavior we reward, the people we idolize all fall under this. Every major (and minor!) industry is led by Trumps, tech included. Every business has a man at the top of it with not an insignificant amount in common with Trump. That's not a coincidence, it's an ongoing process.

A system's purpose is what it does, and our system makes Trumps on an industrial scale. Almost every boy in America goes through a phase, at least, of wanting to be Trump: to be rich, so goddamn rich that he can do anything he wants and just pay it off, and a distressing number of them never grow out of it, and to be clear, that is a rational response. They have witnessed firsthand with their eyes, in their movies, in the world around them, by virtue of who wins, that Trumps win. All you have to do is talk smooth, accept no responsibility, assert your dominance over reality itself over and over and over, and our system will, far more often than not, reward you handsomely.

I have no idea what you just said. Industry lead by Trumps? You're generalizing and stereotyping far too much.

This world would be a lot better off with less generalizing and stereotyping all 'round.

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Exactly. Nobody waved a magic wand and conjured up Trump, causing people to become cruel and selfish. They are already cruel and selfish, and they simply found their man. It's not like people are just going to just stop being this way once he's gone.
I dont know if I have ever read something as poetic and true to the point at the same time. Thanks for this priceless realisation.
>we cannot kill the movement behind him

You've tried twice. America has rejected your ideology, your violence, and your warmongering.

> warmongering

Republicans calling Democrats warmongers is probably one of those hypocritical things I'm seeing in recent years.

That's because you're confusing the old definition of republicans and maga

The republican party is now maga, they are not the same

the maga base has been pretty consistent on being antiwar

> America has rejected your ideology, your violence

LOL. Red states have the highest firearm death rates:

https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/firearms-death-rat...

I think they were talking about the literal assassinations