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93po | on: Trump wins presidency for second time
i blame the media for "trump is literally hitler" for the past ten years
BadHumans | parent | next
You act like the guy didn't himself say he wanted to use the military on people who disagreed with him or that he just needed people to vote one more time and after that they would rig it so you didn't need to vote again. Comments like this make me wonder if people are actually paying attention.
foxglacier | root | parent | next
I've never heard that before. Have you got a link to those statements? I suspect you're not accurately representing their meaning in your summary.
Balladeer | root | parent | next
"...get out and vote, just this time. You won't have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what? It'll be fixed, it'll be fine. You won't have to vote anymore."

https://youtu.be/gE7xoHJkgvE?si=MVL_GibOGn2WDpLV&t=18

"I think the bigger problem are the people from within. We have some very bad people, we have some sick people, radical left lunatics...and it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard or if really necessary by the military."

https://youtu.be/BfSAOPPSYC8?si=C-6ZUrvU0yoFl9Aw&t=22

CephalopodMD | root | parent | next
These are real and trivial quotes to find. Google is free my friend.
ball_of_lint | root | parent | next
https://youtu.be/FOGTCKQklPQ?t=14

> In 4 years you don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixed so good you're not gonna have to vote.

Seems pretty clear to me.

tartuffe78 | root | parent
Did you vote in this election?
93po | root | parent | next
trump is the most anti-war president of my lifetime, i don't know how anyone is accusing him of using or misusing the military.

what is it specifically about a second term that allows him to rig all future elections? what is different this time that wasn't true in 2016?

consteval | root | parent | next
> i don't know how anyone is accusing him of using or misusing the military

Because he explicitly stated he wants to use the military domestically to retain power and clean out the US?

Are we really meant to just... not believe the words Trump says? On the topic of Trump?

BadHumans | root | parent
When they agree with him he's serious and when they don't he's joking or being misunderstood. That is how cults operate.
anigbrowl | root | parent | next
No he isn't. He crapped all over Obama for ending the war in Iraq, along with most other Republicans. He kept the US in Afghanistan for his whole term and sabotaged the US exist on the way out, by setting a date far in the future, drawing down most US military assets, and negotiating the release of ~5000 Taliban who went right back to fighting. His policy toward Putin was pure appeasement.

Please find me any Republicans who gave Obama credit for ending the Iraq war - in his first term no less.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fact-checking-donald-trumps-...

BadHumans | root | parent
> trump is the most anti-war president of my lifetime, i don't know how anyone is accusing him of using or misusing the military

Trump is going to let Israel flatten Gaza, Russia take Ukraine, and possibly China engage Taiwan but anti-war. No one is accusing him of misusing the military yet.

> what is it specifically about a second term that allows him to rig all future elections? what is different this time that wasn't true in 2016?

A majority in Congress, a loyal Republican heavy Supreme Court, and the presidency as well as the desire to stay out of jail.

whamlastxmas | root | parent
Exactly their point - I/they don't want the US to get directly involved in those situations. It would make it worse. The US doesn't need to be getting into wars, especially not with nuclear superpowers.

The supreme court balance is the same as it was when he was president, Republicans had the majority in the House from the beginning of Trump’s presidency in January 2017 until the 2018 midterm elections, when the Democrats won control of the House, and Republicans had the majority in the Senate for the entirety of Trump’s presidency.

literally nothing is different this time that's going to let him round up people into camps and turn himself into god-emperor. if he was interested in abusing power in completely new ways he would have pardoned himself before he left office.

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brodouevencode | root | parent
The rhetoric has only amplified in negative ways since he came on the scene in 2015. I don't know who kicked it off, and don't think it matters. Both sides are equally guilty for the hatred they've spewed.
BadHumans | root | parent
Both sides are not equally guilty and the "both sides are the same" rhetoric is tired and old.
brodouevencode | root | parent
> Both sides are not equally guilty

Yes they most certainly are.

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anigbrowl | parent
Does he have any responsibility at all for the words that come out of his own mouth? Blaming the media has been the right wing propaganda strategy for the last 3 decades. Fox News and the alte unlamented Rush Limbaugh have made entire brands out of blaming the media, while also crowing about being the most successful media brands in the country.