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trump is the most anti-war president of my lifetime, i don't know how anyone is accusing him of using or misusing the military.

what is it specifically about a second term that allows him to rig all future elections? what is different this time that wasn't true in 2016?

consteval | parent | next
> i don't know how anyone is accusing him of using or misusing the military

Because he explicitly stated he wants to use the military domestically to retain power and clean out the US?

Are we really meant to just... not believe the words Trump says? On the topic of Trump?

BadHumans | root | parent
When they agree with him he's serious and when they don't he's joking or being misunderstood. That is how cults operate.
anigbrowl | parent | next
No he isn't. He crapped all over Obama for ending the war in Iraq, along with most other Republicans. He kept the US in Afghanistan for his whole term and sabotaged the US exist on the way out, by setting a date far in the future, drawing down most US military assets, and negotiating the release of ~5000 Taliban who went right back to fighting. His policy toward Putin was pure appeasement.

Please find me any Republicans who gave Obama credit for ending the Iraq war - in his first term no less.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fact-checking-donald-trumps-...

BadHumans | parent
> trump is the most anti-war president of my lifetime, i don't know how anyone is accusing him of using or misusing the military

Trump is going to let Israel flatten Gaza, Russia take Ukraine, and possibly China engage Taiwan but anti-war. No one is accusing him of misusing the military yet.

> what is it specifically about a second term that allows him to rig all future elections? what is different this time that wasn't true in 2016?

A majority in Congress, a loyal Republican heavy Supreme Court, and the presidency as well as the desire to stay out of jail.

whamlastxmas | root | parent
Exactly their point - I/they don't want the US to get directly involved in those situations. It would make it worse. The US doesn't need to be getting into wars, especially not with nuclear superpowers.

The supreme court balance is the same as it was when he was president, Republicans had the majority in the House from the beginning of Trump’s presidency in January 2017 until the 2018 midterm elections, when the Democrats won control of the House, and Republicans had the majority in the Senate for the entirety of Trump’s presidency.

literally nothing is different this time that's going to let him round up people into camps and turn himself into god-emperor. if he was interested in abusing power in completely new ways he would have pardoned himself before he left office.

BadHumans | root | parent | next
The US is not directly involved in any of those situations and all of those situations have consequences for the US even if they are not involved, especially Taiwan.
kelnos | root | parent
> The supreme court balance is the same as it was when he was president

I think it's a safe bet that Thomas and Alito will step down in the next two years and be replaced by similarly right-wing justices, just much younger. The court will be majority hard-right for the rest of my life.

> literally nothing is different this time

This time he and his supporters are prepared. If you look at Trump in 2016, he seemed genuinely surprised he won. His transition team was ad-hoc and clumsy. His cabinet and advisory picks ended up being sub-optimal for him, as he kept appointing people who wouldn't go as far as he wanted to. Project 2025 is a thing now, and is a playbook for weakening and subverting the US federal government -- except in areas where conservatives want to keep power so they can impose it on states that don't share their ideology.

And any time states complain, SCOTUS will tell them to stuff it.