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Supermancho | on: Trump wins presidency for second time
Trump appoints 2 more allies to Supreme Court positions. During his term.

Trump runs for a 3rd term, with the help of his existing support (including Musk).

Vance fails to certify states that are unfavorable to Trump or refused to list Trump as a candidate for 3rd term, announcing the Trump has won. Congress may object. Bad news, it's R controlled.

The issue is brought to the Supreme Court, however Trump will effectively still take the position as per ceremony.

Supreme Court decides in favor of Trump, under the doctrine of strict interpretation (bad faith is an existing loophole).

This is just one of the many paths to breaking down the existing political system.

What you and I consider "democracy" may differ. These series of events would be a breakdown of American democracy, regardless.

cortesoft | parent | next
He is going to be in his mid 80s after this term. At some point age is going to catch up to him no matter what else happens.
yencabulator | root | parent | next
I fear more what comes after Trump than Trump himself.
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fastball | parent | next
Do you genuinely believe that congress being "R controlled" means all those Rs will be happy with Trump pissing on the constitution? Do you genuinely believe that? That being happy to have Trump in office a second term (as is allowed and normal) is the same as wanting him to be dictator? Do you think every single Republican elected this cycle is a Trump supporter, period?

Same with SCOTUS. They're appointed for life. What in the world makes you think they are more loyal to Trump than to the foundation of the US? Hint: they're not. 2/3 of his SCOTUS appointments are Federalist Society members, who LOVEEE the constitution).

jerlam | root | parent
It's hard to know what's "truly" in people's hearts, but the list of Rs who have been (re)elected while opposing Trump is short.

Someone made a wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republicans_who_oppose...

93po | parent
this is extremely out of touch with reality. trump is not going to run for a third term. he didn't even pardon himself when he was last in office, which he could have done, but didn't. he also could have packed the courts and didn't. trump sucks but he's not fundamentally trying to operate outside established powers and traditions of his office. if he was gonna "fuck all this i do what i want" he would have last time
Supermancho | root | parent
> if he was gonna "fuck all this i do what i want" he would have last time

He tried. There are books and interviews, available today, describing how unprepared he was (ie the basic housekeeping of staffing positions) to take his position as the head of the executive branch. He had no political infrastructure, which has been since remedied by some rather fringe conservatives (related to prj2025). He is unable to manage anything, ruling through typical narcissistic behavior of delegation and blame. He has a colorful history of exploiting legal loopholes. The only thing Trump consistently does, is prop up his own image and power to continue to operate in this manner.

> he also could have packed the courts and didn't.

Meet reality. He did enough by taking whatever Republicans put in front of him. I see no reason to believe it won't be repeated.

> trump is not going to run for a third term.

This is not a compelling statement, in the slightest.

Again, this is one possible path for deconstructing American democracy, which easily sprung to mind and is dependent on his health in 4 years. Saying it's impossible, is another opinion.