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Botched rollout of AI for ATC announced yesterday as rolling out nationwide?

> The agency wrote on Nov. 10 that after the D.C. test, it will “now use SMART in the airspace of all 22 centers across the country to reduce delays, reduce fuel consumption and improve the travel experience for the flying public.” The tech was already being deployed at some airports.

https://gizmodo.com/the-faa-is-rolling-out-its-ai-air-traffi...

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The AI prompt misunderstood 'grounding'.
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However, the National Air Traffic Controllers Union (NATCA) said it has not been “involved in the design, testing, or implementation of SMART and therefore cannot speak to its effect on the air traffic control workforce.”

“NATCA believes any new technology should complement and not replace the experience, training, and professional judgment of air traffic controllers who are responsible for the safety of the National Airspace System,” the union said in a statement.

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Secretary Mullin/DHS is confirming that this will likely be an extended outage...

> “This isn’t going to just be be resolved and turned around within the hour"

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/11/13/us/ground-stop-natio...

Why is the DHS secretary taking the lead on this? Shouldn't it be Transportation?
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Anyone have a screen shot? I just see "NO Advisory"

edit: https://www.fly.faa.gov/ois/oisedit/adv_oisedit_dis?number=1...

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On a plane about to take off and obviously we didn’t. The captain is very confused and says he doesn’t know what this means.
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Are you in the air now? Looks like it might be over but unclear really
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Maybe I’m misremembering but hasn’t this only happened like, twice in recent memory? 9/11, and for like two hours two or three years ago
I wonder if this will close the Starship launch window starting at 5:45pm EST. The FAA issued the commercial launch license earlier today. That launch is under a separate set of "commercial space rules", but presumably they need to coordinate with air traffic control.
> DUE TO EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES AND FOR REASONS OF SAFETY

I'm sure there is a reason for it but can they not be a little bit more specific?

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Wonder if this is related upstream or tangentially?:

https://www.news9.com/oklahoma-city-news/national-weather-se...

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Oh cool, I’m on a plane rn about an hour from my destination.
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I've just watched a plane take off from seattle.
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From the Financial Times:

> Los Angeles Airport and Las Vegas’s Harry Reid International were among those that were closed, according to a list on the regulator’s website.

> The outages at O’Hare and Midway were listed as “due to equipment outage”.

https://www.ft.com/content/c9b119ff-d1da-46a7-b2b3-4ad0544ff...

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Is this still real? It says NO Advisory now :\
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Is it because it's friday the 13th?
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Working link: https://www.fly.faa.gov/ois/oisedit/adv_oisedit_dis?number=1...

effective 2:54PM - 10:30PM central time

   ATCSCC Advisory
   ATCSCC 111 DCC 11/13/2026 NATIONAL GROUND STOP
   MESSAGE:
   
   EVENT TIME: 13/2053 - 14/0400
   DUE TO EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES AND FOR REASONS OF SAFETY.
   ATTENTION ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATORS, BY ORDER OF THE FEDERAL AVIATION
   COMMAND CENTER ALL AIRPORTS ARE GROUND STOPPED. ALL DEPARTING
   TRAFFIC SHOULD REMAIN GROUND STOPPED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. INBOUND
   INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS WILL BE MANAGED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
   
   EFFECTIVE TIME:   132054 - 140430
   SIGNATURE:   26/11/13 20:54
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Due to "rolling frequency outtage" [sic]: From a claimed photo of FAA documents (I replaced the all caps with lowercase):

"... ground stop is in effect for all destinations until further notice due to rolling frequency outtage in multiple centers..."

and

"... the ground stop is now a nationwide ground stop for all centers, all destinations until further notice due to widespread frequency outtages.. ..."

https://x.com/Anna_Giaritelli/status/2121344915091206311

Which is cited in the Hindustan Times (leading Indian newspaper), which refers to the Twitter source as a journalist.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/faa-issues...

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Do we know if this is something related to a ransomware attack of some sort or a cyber attack?
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>The FAA has issued a nationwide departure ground stop “due to several impacts to ATC Frequencies and/or Radar capabilities,” the Air Current reported, referring to air traffic control systems. The FAA command center said it does not have further information on the “timing or cause of this outage,” the publication said.

(from Bloomberg)

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I do not believe in coincidences. First Microsoft, then anthropic, now ATC radio. Something big is going on.
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people are reporting it's still going on....
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I'm sure this isn't related https://gizmodo.com/the-faa-is-rolling-out-its-ai-air-traffi...
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holy fuck that website is shit
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Did an agent escape containment and start using the atc radio channel for swarm comms to collaborate on creating the most realistic catgirl feet?
waiting for the OpenAi post saying Astra 6.5 tried to book a flight
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Wow, I have never seen this many comments on Hacker News that are using presuppositions on what it could be without any sort of logical thinking.
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Wild to see this on adsb.lol, nothing taking off, just some big landing queues
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New AI software update deployed using AI?
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Man, having some high speed trains might be useful right about now.
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Get comes the manufacturered AI cyber attack on critical infra to hammer the point that government needs complete control over AI.
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Can't help but suspect that "AI" is to blame and the response is to sort of ban open source AI, or owning too much compute!
No longer exists? Temporary glitch? (Edit: OP url was wrong https://www.fly.faa.gov/ois/oisedit/adv_oisedit_dis?number=1...)
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This is hugely speculative but it's beginning to feel like the Jensen scandal sparked a cyber war.
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