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> It’s gone pretty far from what it was 15 years ago

GNOME 3.0 was released 15 years ago last April.

https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/2011-Apr...

It is exactly the same desktop today. The most visible changes are that the strange floating word "Activities" is now a strange floating pill instead, whose meaning only becomes apparent once you switch virtual desktops a few times, and that the virtual desktop switcher has moved to become horizontal (i.e. worse and less space-efficient on a widescreen) when it was vertical.

I often hear "try it again, it's really changed" but I see no difference. I powerfully disliked it in 2011 and nothing has changed. It's a bit faster, but there are more hamburger menus now, to the extent that apps like Disks has two of them. It's still horrible.

I am all for UI innovation, but it needs to be informed by what's gone before.

I would like the GNOME development team to spend a while learning to use a few pre-Windows desktop environments efficiently and well, to learn how seriously different layouts can work.

Classic MacOS was sublime. 8.1 was a good snapshot.

RISC OS is a great example.

Original Psion System 3MX EPOC is another.

Psion NetBook EPOC32 is another, and very different.

Some Amiga-inspired environment such as AROS or MorphOS.