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> But in what way is Gnome holding us back?

I can't count the number of times I've watched people experience Linux for the first time via Gnome, and become convinced that Linux is weird and unworkable. Thankfully, those days have mostly passed, and vastly more friendly, conventional and appealing desktops are now often the first experience someone is likely to have.

I'm not a Gnome hater. I've deliberately chosen to use it at times. But I've been at all of this a while, and I understand what I'm dealing with, so the Gnome papercuts and "opinionated" behavior are things I can cope with. "Coping," being exactly what I feel like I'm doing when using Gnome.

Anyhow, more on theme with regard to lightweight DE's, my current go-to is openbox, which I use on auxiliary displays for game development. It starts faster than I can lift my finger from the enter key and neatly manages windows. That's about all I want from it and it pleases me.

> I can't count the number of times I've watched people experience Linux for the first time via Gnome, and become convinced that Linux is weird and unworkable.

Do you have a suggestion for a modern distro/DE that's still non-surprising to new users?

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My wife switched from Windows 10 to Gnome 3 without too much fuss when her computer died witohut warning. She needed a laptop that day, the only one I had available was my spare thinkpad I just created an account, a new luks passphrase and she just started using it. Sure at first she had to learn a few things but nothing that lead to swears. My daughters have been using gnome 3 since they were of age of using a computer and like it much more than the windows at their mother's place.

Grumpy luddites gonna be grumpy luddites but I am pretty sure that Gnome is more approcheable than windows and macOs for the newer generations who are more accustomed to mobile interfaces since they are kids.