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233mhz | on: Anthropic IPO
So there are 10x more people who see more value in their netflix subscription than in a $20 claude sub, interesting
robotresearcher | parent | next
ChatGPT was first mover and has the non-engineering AI chat market. My teen kids say ‘Chat’ to refer to all of AI, and they mean ChatGPT. The rest might as well not exist to them.

Claude has done amazingly well in the SWE domain, because it’s often the best user experience. But most of the world is not HN.

NichoPaolucci | root | parent | next
I think we're all in a bit of an echo chamber. Our job is to keep up with this stuff, and we work with people who are ALSO keeping up with this stuff.

To my friends (mechanics, CPAs, musicians, police officers), girlfriend (RN), and other people in my personal life... it's ChatGPT. (It's a neat tool to generate funny pictures or ask a question).

Now that I think about it, I have NEVER heard anyone mention Anthropic / Claude outside of work.

pvab3 | root | parent
"Chat" refers to twitch streamers talking to their audiences. I'm sure some people have confused it with AI but that's not the original meaning. And by "engineering" you mean writing code, then yes, but I am an EE and to the extent that anyone of my colleagues uses AI, which many don't, I haven't seen that Claude is dominant.
robotresearcher | root | parent
‘Chat’ has meant many things back at least to IRC in the late 80s.

I assure you my young adult kids and their friends mean uniquely ChatGPT in the AI context. And whenever used as a proper noun, or as a person (e.g. Chat told me…) it means ChatGPT.

They also use it generically as the regular noun ‘chat’ when they’re talking about chat rooms and livestream live comments, (eg. “Paste in chat”)

mashlol | root | parent
If they're saying something along the lines of "chat are we cooked?" then they are almost certainly referring to the twitch chat reference mentioned above. I don't believe chat is a common way for kids to refer to AI.
robotresearcher | root | parent
Took it to my local source.

My California highschool senior agrees that “chat are we cooked” is a reference to generic chatroom / livestream comments. To my surprise it’s a thing you can say in a group to signal a local broadcast, ie. “hey everyone, are we cooked”.

On the other hand, the word ‘chat’ with no other context, defaults to an AI chat bot, assumed to be ChatGPT.

So we’re both right in our core points.

ponector | parent | next
For my private use a free tier is enough. There is no point to pay $20 for Claude subscription.
Spivak | parent | next
Maybe not interesting? I wouldn't expect the number of subscribers to a bespoke "AI Service" to rival Netflix. I realize on this forum we're probably getting lots of use out of them in our personal lives that justifies the $20/mo but we're also the people who pay for search engines and VPSs. Outside of work and school normal people don't do anything that requires general purpose AI. These companies are trying really hard to pitch use cases for everyday things but you can see from the ads they're super forced. The biggest value add for most people is probably "go google something for me so I don't have to wade through the sludge" and Google is giving that service away for free.
BeetleB | parent | next
Myself included. Why get a Claude subscription if I can't use pi with it?
xboxnolifes | parent
Obviously? More people want to watch TV than people who want to build things with AI.