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TBH, if you are launching a startup, it might not be a terrible idea to incorporate in Canada. Canada has the notion of federal incorporation in addition to each province having its own corporate registry. Federal corporations can exist in any province but all the filings are done in one place.

The new mega-deduction recently announced [1] results in an effective 6% corporate tax rate, which is among the lowest in the world and certainly in the G-7. Things like the RTR are just one example among many of the efficient infrastructure that Canada is introducing to address a very long term productivity gap (the mega-deduction is another).

And, R&D conducted in Canada is always a current-year expense and never capitalized. And there is a refundable tax credit for R&D that works out to about 60% of engineers' salaries (in most provinces). And those salaries are lower than they are in the US (something that engineers in Canada have a right to complain about).

[1] https://www.canada.ca/en/department-finance/news/2026/09/gov...

No the tax rate isn't 6%, this is incorrect. The 6.4% is the marginal effective tax rate on new investment. Rates are unchanged: 26.5% combined federal/Ontario, or 11.2% for CCPC small-business income. And it's still draft legislation released Sept 15
That is indeed correct, and I'm sorry for framing the 6% rate as if it were the overall general rate.
Claude? (I jest)
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“You told me these are the best engineers in the world!”

“I said they were the best engineers in Canada.”

(Quote from the BlackBerry movie)

Attracting strong talent in Canada is hard given the massive pay differences gained by moving south of the border.

> Attracting strong talent in Canada is hard given the massive pay differences gained by moving south of the border.

The size of the pay difference is something you, as the prospective employer, have significant direct control of. It is within your authority to point the dial anywhere from "hard to find anybody because of the massive pay difference" to "easy to attract strong talent, while still saving money relative to what it would cost to attract the same level of talent in the US".

The Canadian business establishment will not come after you to break your knees if you offer higher wages than they do.

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US hi-tech companies opened branches in Canadian cities. Used to be for H1B hopper but no longer the case: they have been expanding their footprints.
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I was actually pleasantly entertained by this movie, despite the inaccuracies. Loved to see the rise and fall and not just rise and conquer that so many biopics portray today.
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This is bizarrely self-contradictory. Pay differences are high because in fact there's a glut of talent.

I've worked for many companies over the years that chose to colocate here because of the relative ease of finding talent.

And there's plenty of good talent that doesn't leave. Because we don't want to. Home is home.

There's also lots of us who work remote for US or EU companies these days.

(Blackberry movie also is garbage)

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I'm a dual citizen living in Canada and ehhhhhhh idk about this. I incorporated a startup in the states because so much internet infrastructure presumes that's where you'll be and only handles Canada as an afterthought, if at all.

Most recently I tried to use Airwallex (payments provider) for a product that does international payouts and they ONLY let you use their product if you're based in the States.

Canada sometimes has alternatives on offer, but they're usually broken and lacking features.

>because so much internet infrastructure presumes that's where you'll be and only handles Canada as an afterthought

Which internet infrastructure is an afterthought in Canada?

>Canada has the notion of federal incorporation in addition to each province having its own corporate registry. Federal corporations can exist in any province but all the filings are done in one place.

I don't personally think federal incorporation is a huge benefit relative to provincial/state-level incorporation. It mainly provides name protection in every province/federally and makes it marginally easier to expand nationally in Canada. It's main disadvantage is a requirement for Canadian-resident directors which can make it a bit difficult to sell the corporation. The tax laws are the same (though for the most part, if you operate outside of Quebec, you're only dealing with one tax agency), and you still have to file extra-provincially in each province you carry on business, which itself comes with provincial filing requirements (i.e. not a one stop shop).

>The new mega-deduction recently announced [1] results in an effective 6% corporate tax rate, which is among the lowest in the world and certainly in the G-7. Things like the RTR are just one example among many of the efficient infrastructure that Canada is introducing to address a very long term productivity gap (the mega-deduction is another).

This is only for new business investment, though granted since you're discussing startups, it's valid to mention that.

>And, R&D conducted in Canada is always a current-year expense and never capitalized. And there is a refundable tax credit for R&D that works out to about 60% of engineers' salaries (in most provinces). And those salaries are lower than they are in the US (something that engineers in Canada have a right to complain about).

This is true. I do wonder how much of an comparative advantage this is now that engineer salaries are no longer capital deductions in the US. I also recall Canada had a startup visa program to bring co-founders to Canada, but that program is paused and I don't know if it really worked.

More than anything, despite all these advantages, I would imagine access to capital is more important to any startup. You can live in the best regulatory environment in the world, and it would mean nothing if you run out of runway. The investment landscape in Canada is hugely conservative overall, and despite being flagged under successive governments that there's a huge death valley between seed to commercialization, no risk has actually been taken to meaningfully address it. [1]

[1]: https://www.bdc.ca/en/about/analysis-research/canada-venture...

HQ in San Francisco, but everyone works in Canada. That's a reasonable model.
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Brazil proved recently that having an alternative payment method that does not rely on American companies is safer and cheaper.

If they didn't have it, they could force a total shutdown of the market there.

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If you are a US citizen, the IRS will likely classify your startup as a Controlled Foreign Corporation (CFC), so be prepared to navigate the many tax pitfalls like PFIC, GILTI (now called NCTI).
the downside of canada is the capital market. You need to take things ridiculuosly further to get less money for them vs usa. Plan on twice as long for exposure and possi ly having to go public to get any value. Just hope a us company doesbt steal your idea and do it better over that whole extended exposure period. I dont do any angel investing in canada anymore because of this.
I have long felt that this is true of much of the western world. The conservatism of investors vs the US must be one of the biggest reasons for US advantage
Its the population density and tax regime. Usa has high enough population density to have real wealth pools and low enough taxes that those wealth pools can create new billionaires when they invest in good ideas. Europe could do it if they dropped their tax rates and crazy labour protections to get more dynamic, but i think the current rich there like that the system aborts new billionaires before they are born.
Now just define “any value”, and that’s a uniquely valuable comment!
Its always what the greatest fool will pay. Usa has way more fools, at way more levels of company development leaving way more out opportunities. In Canada be prepared for 7 to 10 years slog to get to where you can list on a low scam stock exchange or be sold to an international company at a discount. Better hope nothing happens in that time to tak your 10x to 100x return to zero. Vs usa if you have strong growth or strong cash flow you can usually get out within a year of starting to earbestly look no matter what stage you are at usually without the discount applied to being a Canadian company. The only things that make sense to do in canda is resource extraction and cheaper north american holding of foreign workers us companies dont want to leave in the third world but who cant get into the usa and canada has not yet impoverished itself enough to get the idiots in the east that control everything to allow major expansion in that. Basically this place should be a no go for startups except for very rare exceptions.
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Getting funding in Canada is significantly more difficult, though. There are fewer investors at every stage of the startup lifecycle here, and those that do exist are more risk-averse. The cheques they write are smaller, too.
Money is fungible; the funding can come from anywhere. Heck, these days it's not uncommon for Softbank in Japan to invest money from Saudi Arabia into companies in California.

Canadian investors are much too risk-averse, but they will happily follow a funding round led by an American VC.

The trend has been for Canadian startups to find funding outside of Canada. With Cohere the government appears be trying to alter this.
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Does it have to be Canadian investors though? Why don't Sequoia et al invest in Canadian (or Japanese or German) companies directly? I'm aware that many VC firms have a foreign presence and I'm not talking about that.

It's always struck me as a little weird that a company has to be within driving distance of Sand Hill road to get attention from a Silicon Valley VC. VCs can't hop on a flight to do some due diligence? Video conferencing isn't good enough for monthly status meetings?

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> Why don't Sequoia et al invest in Canadian (or Japanese or German) companies directly?

Economies of scale. Many investors can review and fund a standard Delaware C corporation without even passing it to outside counsel.

For Canada, not only will you probably special counsel, you may also have additional up front and ongoing accounting costs related to tax treatment, et cetera. You also know that this is potentially a hurdle that start-up will face in every sale and supply-chain contract it signs, unless it relents and just chooses a normal jurisdiction, at which point why don't they just create a Delaware entity and headquarter in Canada?

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Many countries have federal incorporation, if anything the state-based one in the US is an exception.

In Australia, the R&D credit can be up to a 100 percent of an engineer's salary.

> there is a refundable tax credit for R&D that works out to about 60% of engineers' salaries

I really wish Canada told American companies to fuck all the way off with that. I hate that we support foreign corporate profits with our tax money. It seems like such a scam. I am sure initially it was meant to help innovation and give small businesses an edge, but somehow the googles and the metas can freely take advantage of it too.

My business was in Ontario for its first 7 years, in the US now. I do not miss collecting and reporting HST.

Other than that, Canada is amazing and I miss a lot of aspects.