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philwelch | on: Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang's letter to staff about affair
He’s absolutely the victim in one sense. On the other hand, the honeypot is the oldest trick in the book and he really should have known better.
pixelstack | parent | next
how is he a victim for choosing to cheat on his wife? Leave alone a possibility of the honeypot. Like he willingly was engaging in the relationships with that chinese women behind the back of his wife. How is he a victim now?
nonethewiser | root | parent | next
>how is he a victim for choosing to cheat on his wife?

He's not, you're adding details to his claim that he never said. He's the victim of a foreign intelligence operaiton.

philwelch | root | parent
I was agreeing that he was a victim of the foreign spy operation, if there was one.

I’m not commenting on the adultery because that’s a separate, private matter.

TedDoesntTalk | root | parent
Is the gambler the victim of the casino?

Is the alcoholic the victim of the liquor manufacturers?

nonethewiser | root | parent | next
Your analogy would be good if Jensen was a sex addict who frequented brothels and China developed an asset at one of these brothels.

But these arent great analogies because you dont have to have sex with a spy to be a victim of a foreign intelligence operation.

The gambler goes to the casino to gamble. And Alice Huang was sent to meet Jensen Huang under normal business pretenses.

The analogy cant quite represent it but its more like the casino sent a dealer-in-disguise to the gambler on some plausible non-gambling pretenses to spy on him. So he's a victim of the casino's spy operation. Then he gambled. Except he's not a sex addict, as far as we know.

philwelch | root | parent
There are a lot of scams that prey on vices like greed and lust and envy. The scammers are still evil scammers, and they people they scam are still victims, though at the same time the victims would not have become victims if they hadn't indulged a vice. Both things can be true at once.

Spies are basically just state-sponsored scammers who are after information and/or influence rather than money.

John23832 | root | parent | next
Yes. They can prey upon the people who frequent them.
philwelch | root | parent
As I said, I’m not commenting on personal vices. I’m commenting on foreign intelligence operations because that’s the only question of legitimate public interest here, as opposed to prurient gossip.
elp | parent
It's the oldest trick in the book for a reason.

Or to paraphrase a really old joke: Men have two heads but only enough blood to run one at a time.

mock-possum | root | parent
The real joke is the sexism that says this is somehow uniquely a problem with men. Women do plenty of stupid things because they’re horny and/or lonely. That whole ‘little head’ thing seems like a bit of harmless cheek until you start looking at it in the broader context of sexism and gender roles, then it gets a lot more tedious.