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littlecranky67 | on: Sshole
> how did I ran into it? [...] i had agent swarms. a lot of them. let's not get into it

Can we please now normalize AI usage in development? Just some other day people asked for "NO AI used" badges for software as measure for quality, and praised i.e. NetBSD for being AI-free. Yes, we come from a phase of AI slop, but it has become obvious that there are plenty of legit usecases where AI beats human-only effort nowadays.

neuronexmachina | parent | next
There's a decent-size "any AI usage is theft" contingent that reacts dramatically to any usage of AI whatsoever.
__MatrixMan__ | parent | next
You've got a great point. But let's also acknowledge that there's a pretty stark contrast between these:

- I found a way to get AI to help me while I made this

- I asked AI to make this

The people you're objecting to are complaining about the latter, this is an example of the former.

rglover | parent | next
Not sure why but a lot of people seem to be missing that you don't have to look at AI as a binary "you're either with us or you're with the terrorists."

Just do HITL (human in the loop). Use an LLM to help you author, but steer the AI in whatever direction you want. It's like having a slightly delusional copy of yourself to pair program with. If you take the time to provide an LLM with some additional skills files and the like, with you in the pilot seat, you can get solid results (it doesn't look as cool as a hands free agent setup but the quality far surpasses anything they can do solo).

vova_hn2 | parent
> Can we please now normalize AI usage in development?

1. It is already normalized outside of a tiny, but very vocal bubble that lives mostly on Bluesky (sometimes also on Reddit/HN/Mastodon).

2. I don't think that even the most staunch AI hater would object to using AI for security research as long as all the artifacts (code, docs) that were produced based on the research are human-written. "Yes, there is a bug in my program, but I refuse to fix it, because I know that you found it using AI" would be a pretty weird position. Not sure, how would you defend it.

littlecranky67 | root | parent
I feel like there is a lot of pushback from delusional engineers, that won't accept their coding skills have been rendered useless - so they come up with tons of reasons to avoid AI, because it just has to be bad. Anything to hold up the ilusion you are an well-paid white-collar worker that can pick employers anytime. And I say this myself coding since the late 90s and making a living off it - it is a painful pill to swallow, but the genie does not go back in the box so just accept it and move on.