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lifeisloving | on: Anthropic blocks users for anything touching training larger models
I haven't used an Anthropic model, or GPT heaviliy in a year. And I have access to both, I dont support either of those companies. I think they're both led by genuinely evil people.
demo4567 | parent | next
Agreed. Same. Except for work where I can use GLM, so I Opus 4.8
buriram | parent | next
Care to elaborate why "they are led by evil people", and what AI companies are "not led by evil people"?
tancop | root | parent | next
Sam and Dario came from the EA-rationalist space. Their ultimate goal is to create an all powerful ASI before anyone else does and make sure no one can do it again. Of course it will be aligned, to their interests as a group and their moral philosophy.

In real life they "just" want to capture the US economy, replace most workers with AI, become trillionaires, then control the world by making ClaudeGPT influence peoples opinions and write backdoors into code. And they need to get open models banned in the process.

The Chinese just want to make money and beat America. Mistral and BFL want to prove Europe can still innovate. They don't have evil goals so they're not evil people.

buriram | root | parent | next
"The Chinese just want to make money and beat America. They don't have evil goals so they're not evil people."

They straight up censored Kylian Mbappe a few days ago for cracking a joke about Mao Zedong. And very much all the models developed by China would have to conform with Chinese government's viewpoint, including censorship and such. Do you truly believe that they are not evil, or they will not ever be evil?

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jaekwon | root | parent
gnosh.ai (see https://gnosh.ai/head-to-head.html for visual demonstration of "functional" AI -- no more compaction; typed thoughts and memory.

the cat is out of the bag now.

tpm | root | parent
Brockman is one of the biggest donors to Trump.
lukan | parent
Can you share your reasoning about Antrophic being genuinely evil?

This was all fake then?

https://www.anthropic.com/news/statement-department-of-war

dao- | root | parent | next
> This was all fake then?

Yes. They sell to Palantir which does all the things Anthropic claims to disapprove of.

conceptme | root | parent
Sounds amazing offering the departement of war to create more reliable weapons.

> We have offered to work directly with the Department of War on R&D to improve the reliability of these systems

lukan | root | parent
No, but this does a bit:

"However, in a narrow set of cases, we believe AI can undermine, rather than defend, democratic values. .. Mass domestic surveillance. Fully autonomous weapons."

How many other companies said no to Trump in any way?

dao- | root | parent | next
This is just smoke and mirrors. They sell to Palantir which is then used by governments for domestic surveillance (~all western "democracies" and their proxies) and autonomous weapons (at least US and Israel).
reverius42 | root | parent
Several companies (I believe at least Apple and Costco) still have DEI programs internally, if you count that as saying no to Trump. Though it's still crazy to me that most companies killed those programs voluntarily because Trump and Republicans don't like them, not because of any real law or contractual obligations.

But the main reason I wanted to reply was just to say -- saying no to Trump, by itself, does not mean that one is not evil. Not all evil in the world is Trump's evil.