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verdverm | on: Anthropic blocks users for anything touching training larger models
Anthropic has plenty of competitors. We don't need the best model for most tasks these days. Open weights are making huge inroads for a reason.
Beached | parent | next
They do have competitors. They just dont have anyone with models equivalent to theirs. They win in the large context long thinking space by a lot.

I love local models, and I run 3.8 Flash Next on a dedicated machine. Alone with a number of image and video generation models. But if I'm doing REAL work, that isnt tinkering for fun on a side project, im using claude, because Qwen3.8 just cant handle large context project well without going off into left field.

Im SUPER jazzed for qwen4 with 1mil token context native support. I HOPE it a step up from 3.8 flash next. Ill be playing with all the qwen4 models the moment I can, but I dont see how someone working on large code bases doing REAL enterprise grade work is seriously using any local models in any capacity that comes remotely close to Opus 5.5+Claude

verdverm | root | parent | next
The size of a code base does not determine the size of the model you need. It's much more correlated with the complexity of the problem. I work in a monorepo with millions of lines, no issue; I have a side project with 20k lines, I had to step in and pull it out of non-progress - albeit by asking a single question
bigbadfeline | root | parent
> But if I'm doing REAL work, that isnt tinkering for fun on a side project

Sorry, but this is either dilettante talk or an unhinged exaggeration - Qwen, DS, GLM and MM are perfectly fine for REAL work, unless you are an overly ambitious vibe coder, but then no model can save you. The Cl hand-holding may feel like something but it won't lead to the completion of real REAL work.

joquarky | root | parent | next
Things are changing so fast that it's easy to let just a little bit of time slip by and think that smaller models are still unreliable.
RideOnTime22 | root | parent
Honestly I feel like most people going "oh but I can't do this without Claude" are just suffering from FOMO. Especially since a lot of metrics are just subjective, you feel like you "have" to use the "best of the best glub shitto v5" model or else you won't be able to produce the best todo app.
adwn | root | parent
> Honestly I feel like most people going "oh but I can't do this without Claude" […] or else you won't be able to produce the best todo app.

I suspect that's because they're working on projects that are several orders of magnitude more complex and demanding than a "todo app".

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NewsaHackO | parent
Eh, we all say we don’t need the best model, but especially for more personalized request/Advice there is sort of a FOMO feeling, where you are afraid weaker models will miss something and directs you down a more inefficient path.
verdverm | root | parent
I haven't used them in 6+ months, you definitely do not need them, I see them make mistakes while reviewing PRs (we allow many models at work)

GLM flash catches Claude errors and bad assumptions, all LLMs make mistakes