Hacker News new | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit
Surely there's a nuanced difference between "every app distributes this independently" and "a very small few apps that bear the brunt of hostile exposure support independent mechanisms".

It's also worth remembering that both of these specific organizations were instrumental in major, positive security shifts that eventually hit OS's too, including shorter-lived certs, limiting the point of CAs, adoption of TLS 1.3, and likely other things. If anything, they deserve _more_ trust than the OS distributors on this specific front, perhaps also because they don't share the OS distributor's incentive to prioritize stability for paying customers, which can be at odds at times with harsh, prompt security measures.