I've used both Apple and Windows devices and don't particularly want a laptop with a touch screen. Mainly I find it awkward and tiring to hold my arm up across the keyboard to use it. Maybe I'd like one if I could fold the screen all the way back and make it a giant tablet.

I think the confusion is lot of Apple enthusiasts drank the kool-aid the company served them saying touch screen is "yuck". And now they have a touch screen, it takes a while to re-orient themselves.

We saw this with foldables. It was a bad idea, but when Apple did it, it was a great idea all of a sudden.

And if you rewind a while back, you'll see "large phones are bad because one handed use .. blah blah" and then Pro Max.

honestly you really just put a new perspective on me. i was thinking about it, i really don't care about a touch screen. but i never used it on a laptop before. now thinking about it, even resizing windows can be a lil cumbersome on a trackpad, at least compared to dragging it with my finger