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Scott Aaronson of Shtel Optimzed and now at OpenAI has a great podcast episode discussing this -worth watching

https://youtu.be/3yXtXTwz4J4?si=mmePkdRBQrlO3BlD

I am old enough to remember when we “listened” to podcasts :)