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...I'm dumbfounded at the idea of using real-life courts to enforce real-life sporting events' streaming rights by getting rapid injunctions against DNS providers as the means of striking at a multiply-redundant head of a piracy hydra when DNS TTLs are often longer than the actual sporting event being infringed upon.

...it's like going after the independent printshop who printed your local telephone directory book to redact known ne'er-do-wells from the directory because a local weed drug deal took place 5 minutes ago but the next telephone directory print isn't scheduled for another 6 months.

also, doesn't DNSSEC prevent this anyway?

swiftcoder | parent | next
> I'm dumbfounded at the idea of using real-life courts to enforce real-life sporting events' streaming rights by getting rapid injunctions against DNS providers

It could always be worse, like here in Spain, where they got one court order a few years back, and just arbitrarily block half the internet (i.e. all of Cloudflare) whenever the futbol is on...

wolvoleo | root | parent
Ah is that what's happening? I thought Cloudflare hated me. Thanks, I will check that next time it happens.

I have zero awareness of when futbol is on because I hate sports. So I didn't correlate it.

immibis2 | root | parent | next
Some countries turn the internet off when there's a big protest against the government. Others turn the internet off when the football is on telly.
ClikeX | root | parent
To be fair, football hooligans do look like violent protestors. Except, the only thing they seem to be protesting is their brains.
lexicality | root | parent
You may wish to bookmark https://hayahora.futbol/
monk_grilla | root | parent
This is hilarious, thanks for sharing. I had no idea.
giancarlostoro | parent | next
> ...I'm dumbfounded at the idea of using real-life courts to enforce real-life sporting events' streaming rights by getting rapid injunctions against DNS providers as the means of striking at a multiply-redundant head of a piracy hydra when DNS TTLs are often longer than the actual sporting event being infringed upon.

There's a youtuber who breaks down samples in songs by hip hop artists, and he gets striked or all his earnings taken by someone who stalks his videos, he used to cut samples to below 15 seconds, and still gets striked. You can't even defend yourself, and arguably he is within FAIR USE of the content.

Someone, somewhere is going out of their way to strike their videos. It's ridiculous, do they strike news channels when copyrighted music plays in the background without their control too?

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peanut-walrus | parent | next
> also, doesn't DNSSEC prevent this anyway?

As per usual, the answer is no. DNSSEC prevents resolver cache poisoning for trusted resolvers which validate DNSSEC. That is literally it. It provides no security against the vast majority of attacks against DNS.

Also limited protection against MitM upstream of the resolver, spoofing is prevented but denial of service is still possible.

bogeholm | parent | next
So much this.

It's like prosecuting the asphalt guys who paved the road the bank robbers used

ctippett | parent
Sometimes when I come up with analogies they miss the mark. Yours was on point.