> But i gotta say, living off grid is fundamentally solipsist. Abandoning society rather than attempting to live well within society will always be a dead end.

I strongly disagree; the way I see it is people like this are trying something different and their ideas could in the long run turn out to be better than the ideas that present day society is exploring.

And if God forbid, society experiences some kind of collapse, the skills and knowledge of these people will be invaluable for recovery.