Sometimes I think back to Google Wave, that beautiful glimmer of real-time collaborative canvases, announced in 2009 when Angular and Backbone hadn't even been invented, and think it launched almost two decades too early.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Wave

https://youtu.be/v_UyVmITiYQ?t=3850

https://www.usenix.org/legacy/event/lisa09/tech/slides/berli...

We're now in a world where we expect real-time interfaces to be developed and immediately deployed for our feedback by agents, in business-critical settings where classic SDLC timelines are far too slow, but code quality is becoming more difficult to manage at scale.

Git, at its core, is a fundamental notion that behavior is an auditable tree of immutable changes, where any participant can rearrange or rewind or remix this sequence on a local machine to show, and interact with, a provisional combination of those changes.

Google Wave, with its operational transformation (OT) and federation systems, was similar in many regards. We have CRDTs now, and far better techniques for auto-merging workstreams - including agentic systems that can resolve conflicts intelligently!

Wave fundamentally had a concept that people would come together and evolve a simple chat interface, into a customized real-time application for their use cases, and that that iteration could happen in real-time, with data and behavior both evolving in collaboration with bots. Wherever Git and the broader notion of SDLC goes, I hope it brings the best of this thinking.

We want to have less, not more, dependence on Cloudflare.

Single point of failure, for both technical and political failures.

$25k to build the next GitHub for $125B company? How generous.

If it’s for agents why don’t you make this a challenge towards them? What sort of human element is desired here?

The next platform for Agentic SCM is just… Fossil. Fossil is an SQLite database that can store anything an agent would ever need.

After reading the rules and thinking about what I can use it finally hit me: https://entire.io/ this is basically design a better entire.io system using CF and NOT git but they want multi agents and they want that history of what and why the agents did that really isn't source code. And doesn't belong in git.

Centralization is antithetical to the whole idea of the internet

Right, because I want a stupid Cloudflare captcha before every git operation.

Us? Ask the agents.

> We want you to build

Strangest tech announcement ever.

I wonder if they still use Bitbucket internally.

I want you to stop donating to Omarchy.

"The first-place team will also receive $25,000 in Cloudflare credits, along with invitations to the VIP speaker dinner on Monday night at Connect."

Whoever in Cloudflare thought that this is an appropriate compensation for the work is delusional. This is insulting.

Of course cloudflare wants you to bring more data and money to cloudflare. Is any of this actually useful though? Do agents need git? Are agents even useful?

Have to point this out because it annoys me every time:

Cloudflare is perhaps most famously and most significantly an international, global platform. That's kind of the whole point.

Only in the smallprint does it mention you must be a United States or Canada resident to enter.

Git, as a protocol, is probably part of the problem for the scale that they are talking about here (1000s of agents). You probably want something between multiplayer editing and commits. That being said, I am terrified about the degree of slop that would be generated with 1000s of agents actually working on a codebase.

No, thank you.

Lololol. This is probably the dumbest sounding competition I've ever heard. Git for bots? Uhhhh ok, whatever.

lol, spec work anyone? For maybe-maybe-not $25k, you build something that could create millions in enterprise value.

Advice for everyone considering this: if you're passionate about ideas in this space and have access to an LLM — build it yourself and start your own company. In fact, message me easting.exe [at] gmail. I'll throw in $25k to get us started. I'm a prior founder with an exit. Because this offer from Cloudflare is ridiculous.

> So in this new world where you have hundreds, or even thousands, of agents working on the same codebase at the same time, what does the foundation look like?

So, would it maybe make sense to question this whole bit, before we starting creating platforms for something like that?

Why do you need hundreds of thousands of agents working on the same codebase? In my experience, and what I see around me, quality code that actually works in production isn't produced by "software factory autonomously run by 1337 agents", but instead one human sitting and interacting with maybe 1-3 agents max, back and forth, pair programming rather than letting hundreds of them output million of tokens over hours.

Are others seeing the same thing, or am I in my own little bubble here? All the "software factory with agents" approaches I've spent time looking into, literally produces trash on top of trash, while I see senior developers 10x their productivity while producing better code than before and they have one terminal open with three panes, a text editor, a agent TUI and a general shell, that's it. Is what I'm seeing (and doing myself) not the typical situation out there in the wider world?

There remain fundamental patterns for the future of software development that are missing.

Orchestrating an agent free for all tends to invite more chaos management.

At the same time there’s folks who quietly have this working.

25k seems like a small bounty for such a large prize.

https://www.cloudflare.com/git-competition/?cf_page=next-git...

Me too, dont have enough tokens.

Not even for 25 millions

No thanks. No more US based infrastructure for me.

Fuck everything about this.

So they want to take someone’s idea for peanuts and then vibecode it later.. also, any word on training AI on the code there?

“We want you to use our product” said every SaaS company ever. “Our product is designed for AI” says every SaaS for the last two years.

None of this is very clever or very compelling.

> We want you to build the next Git platform on

the computer under your desk!

Roll your Own, don't depend on billionaire platforms to get your work done...

Can we please have it decentralised and without any single entity having control over the lifecycle of a product ? Lessons learnt.

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