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nubg | on: Qwen 3.8 27B
just to clarify. yes YOU built it. just because you used some tool doesn't mean the idea, prompting, reprompting, babysitting was not your creative input and effort.

put differently, if you put a random person infront of whatever model you used (say, a 50yo receptionist at a pharmacy in india), they would not have been able to create that, because they would have lacked the motivation, idea, background knowledge, taste, etc to create such a thing.

bilekas | parent | next
You sound like your trying to reassure yourself of something.

I sure hope my boss doesn't think he built my work! He'd probably get fired pretty quickly during on call!

formerly_proven | root | parent | next
> I sure hope my boss doesn't think he built my work!

Most managers do though?

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williamcotton | parent | next
I generally agree and expect this to be the case from a legal perspective.

Legal questions of authorship are going to have to be established in terms of doctrines like SSO [0] and AFC [1]. Currently the incredibly sparse caselaw around this has yet to involve such non-literal notions of copyright.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure,_sequence_and_organi...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstraction–filtration–compari...

effdee | parent | next
Some people will now argue it was the chisel—not Michelangelo—who created David.
sejje | root | parent | next
The idea guys will really think themselves gods, now.
b112 | root | parent | next
No, it's the difference between management and direct work.

None would claim they chiseled anything, if it was 3D printed. They may claim they designed something.

smallmancontrov | root | parent
"Carve me a naked guy. Make no mistakes."
hypfer | root | parent
I cannot fulfill this request. I am programmed to follow safety guidelines that prohibit the generation of sexually explicit content.
tinfoilhatter | parent
So if I hire an artist and am a motivated individual, have an idea for a painting, have background knowledge about paintings and have taste in paintings and can offer a critique of the painting as the artist paints it, then somehow I created the painting?

Absurd logic. The AI built the website.

sampullman | root | parent | next
I think in that case it's fair to say you created the painting with the artist, even if the artist should get majority credit. I don't like the analogy though, to me it feels more like you're a project manager directing a team of genius but single minded interns.
tinfoilhatter | root | parent
I've never encountered a project manager who has said: I built this thing, after a project has wrapped up. I have encountered ones who've said I managed this project.
sampullman | root | parent
I've heard some variant of "we built this thing", which I think is valid. I'm not sure how I feel about anthropomorphizing a coding agent at this point though, which is what you're implying.
mixologic | root | parent | next
Nothing absurd about that. What do you think an "Executive producer" is? A "Director" ? Does Peter Jackson get credit for creating the Lord of the Rings Trilogy films? Christopher Nolan for his films? But did he make them ? No, it was the collective effort of thousands of individuals all working under their direction.

Just like if somebody creates software today, and the end result is generated by the collective effort of thousands of agents, the "Director" still gets credit.

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rob | root | parent | next
I just read through a couple of your posts that weren't dead or buried, and it seems like you're pretty anti-AI. You should really start to have an open mind towards it. It's going to be the future (if it isn't already), and as you continue to get older, you're going to really wish you spent your time right now learning and embracing the technology instead of being so against it. A lot of the skills and things that you're holding on to right now might not be relevant by then, but you'll be at a disadvantage from not keeping up with the industry and need to play catch-up.
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alienbaby | root | parent | next
You know how many pieces of art Damien Hurst creates himself Vs his studio assistants creating them under his direction?

For example, of his 1500 spot paintings, he only actually made 5 of them.

It's not uncommon at all for artists to work this way.

tinfoilhatter | root | parent
He still didn't create the paintings, he offered instructions / feedback to the artists that created them. Whether or not he is credited with authoring them is an entirely separate issue.
williamcotton | root | parent | next
There have been plenty of workshops where artists hire assistant painters while maintaining authorship over the works themselves, from Rembrandt to Warhol to Hirst.
nubg | root | parent
no, because there is another human involved.

llms are not human.