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>When a politician is worried about your kids, you should be worried about your rights and freedoms. Not only for your own sake but for your kids too!

What rights and freedoms should I worry about when a politician wants to make sure my child is fed by supporting food stamp programs or free hot lunches at school?

The idea that any attempt to help a child is inherently suspect honestly says something distrubing about your own worldview. You can't imagine someone genuinely caring for a child that isn't there own?

cobbzilla | parent | next
> You can't imagine someone genuinely caring for a child that isn't there own?

I just said the opposite. I can imagine many people genuinely caring for a child that isn’t their own.

I am skeptical when a politician who does not know my children claims to care about them.

To borrow an LLMism: It’s not cynicism, it’s the reality of history. We the people have been duped many times over. Caveat Emptor.

inigyou | parent | next
You should be worried the politician is going to enslave people to make the food for the children.
GiorgioG | parent | next
Politicians don’t care about your kids, they only care about your vote.
slg | root | parent | next
This level of cynicism is only possible if someone has never interacted with people on a local political level. Once again, it's more a reflection of your own worldview than an accurate reflection of all of humanity. There are some people who genuinely have empathy for others and want to do good. The way some of you refuse to believe that is truly disturbing.
stressback | root | parent
There are some people who have genuine empathy for others and want to do good, and they aren't politicians. The only thing disturbing about this is you don't see it.
cortesoft | root | parent
So you should just oppose everything any politician proposes?
zmgsabst | parent
In the case of food stamps, that was the leverage by which social engineers destroyed the black family via incentives for single mothers — collapsing from 75% married (circa 1950s) to 25% married (modern).

The “Welfare State” is nothing but modern share cropping from the party of Jim Crow.

slg | root | parent | next
Just so I'm clear here, you think half of Black moms have pushed their child's father away for the lucrative reward of food stamps? And that scenario was preplanned by some unnamed "social engineers"?
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tadfisher | root | parent | next
Your narrative is embellished and does not correlate strongly with the data [1].

Embellished: marriage rates are 33.8% for Black women and 37.8% for Black men, neither of which I would round to 25%.

Uncorrelated: marriage rates dropped sharply among people of all single races on the Census except for Asians. It has dropped more sharply for Black respondents, but anything disproportionately affecting the lower and middle economic classes would disproportionately affect Black families.

Show me some data, and not outdated welfare policies from the 1980s, that supports the "social engineers" causal narrative better than plain deindustrialization. Or deindustrialization combined with good old American racism and mass incarceration. I am willing to change my position on this.

1: https://usafacts.org/articles/state-relationships-marriages-...