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Correct, but it was preview release. I was referring to GA in my comment.
notatoad | parent | next
Does that mean anything at all? They released it. Customers paid for it. Sticking a preview label on it doesn’t change that it was released
npn | root | parent | next
btw, GA usually means it is suitable for production, and available globally.

the last time a gemini model was available globally in multiple datacenters was gemini 2.0 era.

aenis | root | parent
Use google pre-ga stuff at your own risk. Fine for POCs and cool demos, absolute misery in scaled prod.
notatoad | root | parent
that matches my experience with their GA stuff though.
clhodapp | parent
That's another problem Google have: they won't stand behind their products until they are outdated.

That can work in the B2C space but it's horrible in B2B.

aleph_minus_one | root | parent
> That's another problem Google have: they won't stand behind their products until they are outdated.

> That can work in the B2C space but it's horrible in B2B.

My experience differs: (conservative) companies like stability, so calling some very new model "Preview" is a good idea to make it clear to the customer that this frontier model should be treated as more experimental than the default offering.

ethbr1 | root | parent | next
The problem at Google is their (lacking) process for Preview -> GA.

Maybe it's a consequence of their rigorousness around SRE, but it doesn't seem like there's a plausible and efficient path for that to happen.

Ergo, the only competitive options from Google are ever-Preview products.

clhodapp | root | parent | next
Yup. Adopting a month-old Postgres release is quite aggressive. It's much more prudent to start considering adoption after it's had six to twelve months of battle testing.

Adopting a month-old AI model version for new development is the default industry expectation right now. Adopting a six month old model is a recipe for having to migrate to a new one almost immediately, when it hits EOL.

ragall | root | parent
The process was, as we were informally told during orientation, that "Preview" means some SVP thinks this has a chance of going over the minimum threshold of 200M worldwide users and is willing to put his weight behind that product, and "GA" means the product has gone over that threshold and will be "supported" until it goes back below the threshold at which point competing SVPs will start sharpening their knives, preparing to stick them in the back of the SVP that is currently in charge of the product.
clhodapp | root | parent
That's fine, but it should still have the same technical availability level