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sharps_xp | parent | next
I went to restaurant last night and asked where the chicken was sourced from and their response was "it's not the usual place we get chicken, but it's US Farm Raised Hatched", but I misinterpreted the her answer as a distributor name but then I realized even if I had a name, I probably couldn't figure out past that whether or not these chickens were pasture raised. If food labels are law, why doesn't this apply to where restaurants source their ingredients?
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senthil_rajasek | parent | next
I have not been following this very closely but it seems like the source of this cyclospora contamination has been very challenging to identify.

Especially because it takes weeks before the infected start showing symptoms.

Isn't it reasonable to update the official statement as new information emerges?

"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?” -John Maynard Keynes.

Wistar | parent | next
I have gone down that quote’s rabbit hole before and it looks a lot more apocryphal than Maynard.

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/07/22/keynes-change-mind/

falcor84 | parent | next
> Especially because it takes weeks before the infected start showing symptoms.

I just wanted to say that your phrasing here is a fabulously ominous one for the first episode of an HBO show.

senthil_rajasek | root | parent
Ha! Seems like I am living in one these days.
peder | parent | next
And TBF, I don't think they've established why the issue is so prevalent in Michigan specifically, since Taylor Farms apparently doesn't have any unique connection to Michigan.
Danox | parent | next
Explosive diarrhea doesn’t take long to show up, and it may be hard to identify which company or who’s responsible when you fired all of the people from the department that it’s supposed to police those type of things.
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gazebo2 | parent | next
Took me a sec to realize you weren't quoting the guy from Tool lol
iwontberude | parent | next
Deficit spending the biggest ponzi ever invented. Thanks Keynes
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TylerE | parent
What changed is that right after the CEO visited the White House, a retraction was issued. This White House does not have a history of being factual, but does have a history of doing "favors" for big donors, which Taylor Farms is.
dabraham1248 | root | parent | next
Mostly to be a pedantic devil's advocate here, I'm going to argue with something you're not saying. I've heard a _lot_ of people argue that the visit is _proof_ of corruption. You're just pointing out the possibility and I'm hoping to head off a bad path.

Anyway, if a company is being declared the source of a multi-state outbreak, that company _should_ be talking to the WH. And it's possible that some of those discussions would present evidence that _should_ result in a retraction.

For example, during heartbleed my grand-boss was in on calls with the WH (I don't work on openssl, at the time I worked on a product that _used_ openssl a couple of layers down). AIUI, official guidance changed because of those calls.

If we want to find proof of corruption, this is a place to start looking, not a place to stop.

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pc86 | parent | next
Marketing blogspam by an ambulance chasing attorney who stands to make a lot of money from this if public perception moves a certain way.
curuinor | parent | next
How much of a sin is it for the ambulance-chaser to chase ambulances if the ambulances are there and legitimate? This is what the tort law is for. He's not the one who sprayed feces-water on the lettuce...
pixlmint | parent | next
Started out with "It's not X, it's also Y", followed by an em-dash. I didn't read any further than that.
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ratelimitsteve | parent
engaging with the identity of the arguer rather than the argument. 5 yard penalty, loss of down.
cube00 | parent | next
It's next level for a family owned company act like they have stock holders to please by cutting corners rather then doing the right thing.
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striking | parent | next
95% of farms are "family owned". Large scale family owned farms make up about 4% of all farms but 48% of agricultural output. https://www.nass.usda.gov/Publications/Highlights/2025/Censu...

There's a tendency to want to be nice to farmers who own "family owned farms" because it evokes imagery steeped in quaint classical Americana. It is mostly from misinformation that this impression arises. Don't feel bad for a family owned farm that isn't going well. They get special bankruptcy rules, they can sell off their very valuable land as a backstop, and most of all they are probably not as small and quaint and cute as you think they are.

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meroes | parent | next
All I know is the Taylor Farms Creamy Ranch from Costco gave me the worst stomach aches for 4 days and horrible gas
t1234s | parent | next
I was always under the impression that disease and pesticide don't usually just "wash off" at home.
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nate | parent | next
"is not marketing. It is evidence". ugh.

I'm so confused how to feel about these articles. this one is clearly AI written. But blessed by a lawyer so we think the stuff in here is accurate with facts?

I've accidentally posted an AI article before that seemed just as this was, and the community flagged that to oblivion. Rightfully so I think?

Does AI need a "report AI" and we can then hide the AI articles as a filter?

Simulacra | parent | next
The lawyers rewrote it four times
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burnt-resistor | parent | next
Don't care. TF uses slave labor. Boycott.
josefritzishere | parent
You referring to their use of prison labor?
vel0city | root | parent
Yes. Using forced prison labor is using slave labor.
NetMageSCW | root | parent
Are the prisoners given no choice?

I’m okay with it either way - as long as prison time isn’t unjust.

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drivebyhooting | parent | next
> A company’s public statement in the middle of an outbreak is not marketing. It is evidence — what the company said it knew, and when, published to the world at a moment when nobody had the benefit of hindsight.

Stopped reading immediately. If we’re just going to delegate writing to Claude, I won’t bother reading this. And maybe I’ll just delegate my decisions to Claude directly.

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stronglikedan | parent | next
I see they followed Fauci's Covid playbook. Thank goodness Cyclospora is rarely fatal.
herf | parent
GPTZero "AI" score for this post: 100%
nerdsniper | parent | next
Why should I put any stock in what some snake oil "AI detector" says?
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