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Chance-Device | on: Ten advances in mathematics and theoretical computer science
Pretty cool. The impact of AI is getting undeniable, there aren’t many positions left to move the goalposts to at this stage, next they’ll have to be outside the stadium entirely.

The sooner people can be broken out of their denial about all this the better, and we can start actually taking it seriously.

fhfncjcc | parent | next
The models are frequently getting worse at items that they aren’t being benchmarked for — and that’s happening more and more over time! Other people in other fields aren’t idiots, they are accurately perceiving the fact that these models are being hyper optimized for our industry, and are becoming less capable in other domains over time. Models of the same scale are massively worse at writing a broad variety of styles of prose than their equivalent from two years ago. (Models of increased scale are a mixed bag.)

Maybe you’re the one who needs breaking out of your cached beliefs.

Chance-Device | root | parent | next
So your answer is: ignore the progress, it’s not really happening, actually it’s getting worse.

That’s not a credible position, but there isn’t anything that I or anyone else can say to someone who simply doesn’t want to believe something.

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arenaninja | parent | next
It's indeed very exciting. I'm looking forward to new advancements/predictions in physics. Preferably as beautifully explained as E = M*c^2
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whimsicalism | parent | next
it is very hard for people to eat crow, as the replies will show
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slashdave | parent | next
> The sooner people can be broken out of their denial

There is irony here

danparsonson | parent | next
Never understood all this talk about moving goalposts - you understand that's how science works, right? We improve, we learn, we recalibrate our expectations based on what we've learned. If we never "moved the goalposts", we'd be stuck scoring the same goals over and over.
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matsemann | parent | next
Which straw man are you arguing against?
c7b | parent | next
And what does taking it seriously entail?
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ck2 | parent | next
"AI" has limits in that it cannot invent knowledge, it can only distill and search for patterns in existing knowledge

not sure how many will get this reference but "AI" for science and math is like super-shoes for runners

at first we are blown away by the impossible improvements including sub-2-hour realworld marathon and every other PR/CR/WR is dialed down

but then the improvements slow and reach a stall point because of the limit of technology and the source of the achievement

ie. sub-2-hour marathon yes, sub-1-hour never happening (rollerblade inline-skate record is 1-hour marathon)

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datakan | parent | next
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Chance-Device | root | parent | next
I can deal with apathy, that’s the norm. What bothers me are all the people who think they can suppress AI by talking it down. That’s what’s counterproductive, just pretend the problem doesn’t exist. Tell other people it doesn’t exist either. I get it, it’s threatening socially, economically, maybe existentially. It’s also not going away.
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overgard | parent | next
https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/openais-amazing-but-vastly...

https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/two-critical-updates-re-as...

As always, PR hype. Goalposts have not moved.

Guys, please use critical thinking. The haters don't hate by default, we hate because we're gaslit about this stuff every day and it's annoying. Extraordinary claims require proof, and they're not giving us information that would be essential to knowing if this is actually significant or not.

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applicative | parent | next
It is a fact of experience, and indeed effectively a theorem, that the better they get at coding and math, the dumber they are. These are the wages of RLVR etc
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HarHarVeryFunny | parent
Sorry to hear you've been impacted by this AI math.

I heard that Gary Kasparov was impacted by AI chess, but at least he still seems to have a job, so don't give up.