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devsda | on: Android May Soon Restrict On-Device ADB
It can and will most probably turn to indefinite time depending on the answer to the question "will we have a viable alternative to jump ship before that happens ?".

We don't need anything to completely capture the market, it has to be just enough to make Google hesitate or make it hard for Google to do it for legal reasons. Like how Firefox is ideally supposed to be for Chrome.

microtonal | parent | next
Many alternative AOSP-based systems work fine today and do not have the new Android Developer Verifier (wow, already rolled out to 500M+ devices [1], though still dormant).

To be honest, it is quite scary that Google is able to remotely roll out an app like that to all GMS Android phones. Of course, we all knew that, but it highlights again that Google can remotely take away functionality that you had before, brick your phone, etc.

[1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.and...

RobotToaster | root | parent | next
We used to call programs like this, that allow someone to remotely break your system, a Trojan horse...
bpavuk | root | parent
and now people install Remote Access Trojans just to let GPT and Claude think and work for them, granting them shell and a11y access. really? after seeing that, nothing surprises me
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ajross | root | parent | next
> To be honest, it is quite scary that Google is able to remotely roll out an app like that to all GMS Android phones.

Are any commercial mobile phone vendors not able to do such a thing? Do remember that this giant kerfuffle is all over the seeming preparation for the apparent removal of a developer feature that iPhones have never had at all.

classified | root | parent | next
> brick your phone, etc.

Apple can do the same for iPhones. In terms of dark shit they can do there's no difference anymore.

izacus | root | parent
Wait till you hear that your OEM can remotely rollout full OS updates with full access to all your data and drivers... carrying Google software and most of it Google code.
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birdsongs | parent | next
I get the analogy but it's a false one. Google covers about 90% of Mozilla's funding. Firefox only survives because of Google, and that's so they don't hit antitrust problems.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Foundation#Financing

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atif089 | parent | next
Google is working on a new recaptcha strategy to counter that. Essentially any non Google flavor of Android OS will fail recaptcha validation
stein1946 | parent | next
> will we have a viable alternative to jump ship before that happens ?

Here is a better question:

"Is the EU going to stop this?"

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fsflover | parent
> "will we have a viable alternative to jump ship before that happens ?"

GNU/Linux phones already exist. Sent from my Librem 5.