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solenoid0937 | on: Claude Fable 5
the quality of discussion on HN has gone to shit, i miss when model released used to have actual informed takes from people that used them or substantive discussion about the system card
weakfish | parent | next
From the rules [0]:

> Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

javawizard | root | parent
They didn't say that HN is turning into Reddit, they said that the conversation quality has gone to shit.

I don't agree with that statement universally, but I have to say I do when it comes to this article. I came here hoping for substantive discussion from those who'd had a chance to try it out; instead what I got was a seemingly endless stream of venting. There's a place for venting - and plenty to vent about with the state of AI nowadays - but to borrow from the HN guidelines you linked, it does very little to gratify my personal intellectual curiosity.

10xDev | parent | next
Nothing here is new, it is the thing we have been talking about for a while but now with guardrails.
Someone1234 | root | parent
Yeah; unfortunately what would good commentary look like? It is more of the same, but now with even higher prices, and even more limited availability. But at least it scores 5% better in whatever benchmark they've selected (*when guardrails don't misfire).

People are no longer commonly constrained by "model too dumb" limitations (in SOTA models). They're constrained by "model too expensive." So making the model ever so slightly smarter, while doubling the price, feels like a regression.

I actually think a Sonnet upgrade, while keeping the same price, would get more buzz. It addresses a wall a LOT of people, without unlimited budgets, are hitting (i.e. people feel forced to use Opus, which they cannot afford, because of Sonnet's limitations).

OpenAI recently retired Codex-5.3; which was very negatively received. Not because Codex-5.3 is superior to GPT 5.5, but because it was half the usage-cost while being "good enough." They made a better SOTA, but didn't realize that some of those customers are playing with Deepseek 4 Pro now instead of GPT 5.4/5.5 -- they were priced out.

Anon1096 | root | parent | next
Many people do have unlimited budgets because their work pays for it. Just because the latest SOTA model isn't something most consumers can afford for personal use doesn't mean it's not worth releasing or discussing. I would guess that the vast majority of software that benefits from being on the bleeding edge is developed by people working at companies on API pricing.
Karrot_Kream | root | parent
If you have nothing valuable to say, don't say it? Not writing anything is a perfectly valid option.
tripleee | parent
Hate to break it to you but those "informed takes" were from people who prompted it once then made a snap judgement
Karrot_Kream | root | parent
That is 1000x better than griping about the privacy policy, capacity issues, token costs, and how trendy the names are for the new models (???). The bar is on the floor and I just want it at my knees.
Capricorn2481 | root | parent
No it's not. The Privacy Policy is worthy of discussion. People declaring the quality of the model after 2 seconds is just noise, arguably worse than nothing.
Karrot_Kream | root | parent
Okay (I disagree because most privacy policy discussions on HN go in the exact same direction and turn into outrage threads but this is a reasonable disagreement since not all of these discussions do), but model naming of all things? Come on. This is low level reaction slop and it's obvious.