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gib444 | on: London's Free Roof Terraces
This is the country where organised marches must have police approval and follow an approved route (and most acute in London). Hardly a surprise!

London's vibe is: 'privately owned, and you're lucky to be here'

Edit: I'm British btw (and currently sat in a pub in London) in case people downvote me thinking I'm a yank lol. There are many people who dislike London and the UK who aren't yanks

wolvoleo | parent | next
In most countries in Europe organized marches and protests must be run by authorities. It's pretty normal here.

Protesting is a legal right but the authorities do have the right to restrict it for public order reasons. For example they often will insist on separate routes to keep conflicting groups apart. It makes sense too.

helsinkiandrew | parent | next
> This is the country where organised marches must have police approval and follow an approved route

You have to notify the police not get approval. They can "impose conditions and restrictions" for safety or to limit the rights of others to travel freely, after which they'll also be somewhat liable to protect you from counter-protesters, or lunatics trying to drive their car at you.

Just about every country requires some kind of advance notice if its not just a few people walking along the pavement/sidewalk and your going to obstruct traffic or block others movement

https://groups.friendsoftheearth.uk/resources/your-rights-an...

jodrellblank | root | parent | next
NB. It's article 11 of the European Convention on Human Rights[1] which gives us "the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and to freedom of association with others, including the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests."

Reform's manifesto includes[2]: "Stop the Boats with our 4 Point Plan. Leave the European Convention on Human Rights."

[1] https://fra.europa.eu/en/law-reference/european-convention-h...

[2] Page 5 of https://reformuk.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Reform_UK...

mapt | root | parent
I know that you think you just mitigated the extreme character of what he said? But you exacerbated it.
gib444 | root | parent
Exactly my thoughts lol
ad_hockey | parent | next
Disagree on that vibe. The museums are usually free in London, for example. Haven't seen that in many other cities.
deaux | parent | next
Its not as if things are any better in the country that boasts the most about its freedoms regarding access to supposedly public spaces: https://www.instagram.com/780_lord_of_bench
baxtr | parent | next
Even within London people dislike each other!

Saw many non-Arsenal fans cheering for PSG yesterday.

basisword | parent | next
There are thousands of protests per year in central London. The larger ones (tens of thousands of people) are going to be disrupting public transport routes than people rely on. There's an approved route so that disruption can be managed. Nothing to do with being 'privately owned'. It also doesn't help that for a large number of people 'protesting' means travelling into London, getting drunk, and fighting.
fontain | parent
How many protestors did the U.K. police kill in the last few years, compared to, say, a very free country… like the U.S?

edit: responding to your edit, of course many British people hate London and for many valid reasons, but your reasoning is very American. Very few British people share that American view of freedom and would describe London as “privately owned”.

RobotToaster | root | parent | next
How many protestors did they arrest?

and the city of London is literally a private corporation.

_n_b_ | root | parent | next
No, it isn't. It is called 'City of London Corporation' in the sense of being a municipal corporation, but effectively it's just a local authority... except that businesses still get a vote along with citizens.
fontain | root | parent
The City of London is a novel anachronism making up a square mile that nobody British would ever refer to as “London” nor do they complain about it being “private”.
gib444 | root | parent
> but your reasoning is very American.

For god's sake how ridiculous. Give over

What's your basis for commenting on us Brits? You can't even spell UK correctly (we don't use full stops. That's an Americanism / hypercorrection). You spell with a z, so not a Brit

fontain | root | parent
I am no less British than you. I was born in England, raised in England, educated in England, voted in England, my parents were born in England, my grandparents were born in England, my great grandparents were born in England… so on and so forth. I am very sorry that my choice to use American spelling on an American website offends you.

The irony is that the beliefs you’re espousing are an infection caused by U.S. cultural dominance of politics on the Internet. Anti-woke right wing people are heavily influenced by American political attitudes. Do you also believe in Birmingham’s no-go zones?

British people are miserable and cynical and hate everything about our godforsaken country but London being “privately owned” is not one of those things. Civilized protest is not one of those things.

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dijksterhuis | root | parent | next
another britisher here. i agree with parent.

oh the delicious irony of the GP being anti-americanisation while regurgitating US right wing talking points

side note: the fact that right wing politicians in the UK (tories/reform) are literally copy pasting US stuff is frankly a fucking national embarrassment. literally importing their views, rhetoric and policies from another country, oh the irony.

gib444 | root | parent
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bombcar | root | parent | next
The IRA is more “British” than some of these commentators.
hnlmorg | root | parent | next
Arguing over who is more “British” isn’t the flex you and the GP think it is. All it demonstrates is close mindedness towards others.
fontain | root | parent
My beautiful bloo passport would disagree.
dijksterhuis | root | parent
what the fuck is your problem? i was trying to be a bit whimsical in my reply. "sorry" for trying to be a bit light hearted
okeuro49 | root | parent
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fontain | root | parent
I lived and worked in that area for many years. I have walked through Whitechapel day and night. Yes, there are a lot of Muslims in the area due to the nearby mosque. The only violence or trouble I ever experienced in the area was with other white people. Whitechapel is a busy part of central London, if you're going to choose a part of London to claim that there is a no go zone, at least try somewhere that isn't on the tourist track, like Poplar (although that isn't a no go zone either, but it's at least a little more plausible).

"Auditing" videos are antagonists causing trouble and videoing it, often either deceptively editing or outright fabricating interactions. People, of course, have strong views, regardless of race or religion, and antagonising them is going to bring out the most extreme of those views. Going to an area with many muslims and trying to antagonise muslims does not make a no-go zone. You can go to whitechapel any time day or night and the only risk is a pissed up local, which, ironically, won't be a Muslim because they don't drink. Alcohol is the main cause of danger in London.

gib444 | root | parent
> I lived and worked in that area for many years.

Wow what an amazing coincidence. I bet you've lived in Dewsbury, Oldham, Bradford and Oldham too

> won't be a Muslim because they don't drink.

Lol straight up lies. I went to uni with a few Muslims, and live in an area with many, and they definitely like a drink. They /say/ they don't drink. There's a difference. This again shows you're ignorant of British (British Muslim) culture

hnlmorg | root | parent | next
Practicing Muslims, ie the ones that would be worshiping in a mosque in Whitechapel, are unlikely to be the same pissed up uni students that you’re thinking of.

Just like not all Jewish people are orthodox and not all Christian’s are catholic.

The GP was correct when they rebutted the ridiculous “no-go” claim.

fontain | root | parent
You're conflating practicing and non-practicing Muslims. The scary violent gang of Muslims enforcing the "no go zone" of Whitechapel by violencing every white person who dares stray from gentrified Shoreditch to the wild east of Whitechapel are practicing Muslims, and every single one of them is sober. If you're not too scared, you could go and ask.

And yes, someone who lived in London for most of their adult life will have spent a lot of time in major parts of the city, that is not very surprising. I ate at the Whitechapel McDonalds hundreds of times.

In case you're interested, the most dangerous part of London I've lived was Mile End because of that weird, creepy, hideous hotel, next to the bus stop, that turned out to be the one used by the Russian poisoners that came to London on their way to wherever it was they killed those people. I was metres away from Novichok! Far scarier than any Muslim.