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Curosinono | on: Magnifica Humanitas
Spite? Its not spite.

The church creates a believe system which indoctrinates all of us and took our cultures away.

The germanic tribes were believers in nature, church removed all of this.

Church also doesn't see woman as equal.

Just because they might sometimes also say postive things or things we might align, doesn't mean i need their oppinion. And especially not on hn

parasubvert | parent | next
Indoctrination and cultural erasure isn't unique to the church. With Germanic tribes - the Saxons, Angles, Normans, etc., while women's rights ebbed and flowed over the centuries, they were rife with double standards and were still quite patriarchal. They didn't just believe in nature, they believed in the same pagan gods as the Nordic peoples.

The point is that times change, and institutions change, and holding grudges for long ago sins and policies is ineffective.

Curosinono | root | parent
This is not true. The number of believers and official people in the church is continuesly declining around the globe.

1990 there were nearly 60 Million people in the church in germany (nearly everyone) now we are down to under 40 Million which crossed the line of 50%

This is real tangable progress.

The only downside is, that we do not sit together and formulate something which might give people hold who are not ready to be self stable mentally and might need something like this. And we also do not try to align together on rituals which help us to live better together.

I'm also still affected by the indoctrination of the church. As you can see, i argue against church not just because I like to argue, but because i really really hate religion and especially the christian church in germany, due to my own values and experience. This is not old i'm only 36.

fuzzfactor | parent
Well, I do have to give the Pope some credit.

This weekend I upgraded the PC of a church lady who has about a 10-year old mini-PC, so now it has the latest Windows 11. This was not easy, it was a shambles of Windows 10 combined literally with amounts of older Windows 11. From which auto-updates would take it no further. OTOH on the bright side autoupdates could do no further damage.

I attribute all success to a miracle, considering there is only 32GB of soldered-in drive space and 4GB memory :\

I don't think it would have come to pass if it weren't for the Pope's smiling face appearing with delight each time I rebooted, when her PC's everyday desktop background picture came into view. This is where he is joining in with the tribal rhythms while visiting Africa, honoring their traditional culture while they honor his visit in their colorful regalia.

When you're dealing with anything that challenging, or more so, you need all the blessings and prayers you can get :)