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nobodywasishere | on: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore
> didn't realize Kagi had no aspirations to build their own general purpose index

Kagi employee here. We're actively working on building our own indexes beyond the limited ones we have now, not just a general index but also purpose built indexes for things like programming, etc.

rpdillon | parent | next
I did not intend to spread misinformation here, and would like to hear more about the general-purpose index Kagi is working on. I had based my comment on several Kagi pages, but mostly https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-sources.htm..., which mentions Teclis as Kagi's own index, but https://teclis.com/ makes it pretty clear that it's a "small web"-focused tool:

> Teclis is an attempt to surface the less known web, the web of creativity and self expression, the more humane web.

> Teclis includes its own crawl as well as results from Kagi Small Web index and results with permission from Marginalia Search.

> Teclis works best with broad queries such as 'machine learning', 'vegan diet', 'religion' etc..

Is there another crawler doing the general-purpose stuff?

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esperent | parent | next
How broad will they be? Do you aim to ever have large scale indexing of the web?
Xunjin | parent | next
Hey do you guys have posts or sharing about it? It would be awesome to see what you are trying to accomplish, maybe it's time to post on HN ;)
Dwedit | parent | next
How do you build a search index in the days of Anubis pages everywhere?
ljm | parent | next
What are the challenges of doing that when so much of the internet has turned itself into SEO slop to fit Google's algorithms?

I imagine there is still a whole load of stuff out there on the internet that Google would never surface because it doesn't have enough adsense or whatever. Are you finding that?

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tokai | parent | next
So you will stop buying Yandex data at some point?
echelon | parent | next
Hurry. Google might give up the ghost on its search product and maintaining indices on anything not geared for LLMs.

I'm not sure antitrust will help you.

jwr | parent | next
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yehat | root | parent | next
If a search engine starts censoring by whatever means, I'll not be using it, neither free or paid no matter how good it is (and by definition it can't be). Shills can provide a list of countries they don't want to see, hopefully some crooked search engine will satisfy their desire for censorship.
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ragazzina | root | parent | next
What other countries do you want nothing to do with?
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redeeman | root | parent | next
yandex provides objectively better results for many things than google/ddg/bing
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severino | root | parent | next
What's the point in stopping paying money to Russia if Kagi is incorporated in Palo Alto, so it's paying money and will continue to do so to a country causing no less troubles than Russia?
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levhawk | root | parent
Ru-speaking audience is ~2 times bigger than Russia, why would they cut this? Only because of SJWs like you? I'd much prefer one search engine that searches well on two languages, instead of using different engines for each language. Ru-net has huge amount of usefulness in it, cutting it out is like cutting a finger. Fun fact, before the RU-UKR war, most Ukranians contributed to the Runet, so that would cut their heritage too.
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xnx | parent
> We're actively working on building our own indexes

Lip service. You'll have some token index of Wikipedia or something so you can say your results are "a blend of our own index and other sources".

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freehorse | root | parent
Wikipedia is prob in "other sources", as they actually say they have a direct license for it.

https://blog.kagi.com/waiting-dawn-search#:~:text=Wikipedia,...