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svcrunch | on: GLM-5.1: Towards Long-Horizon Tasks
The grandparent is definitely wrong on (3). Yes, coding is a killer product, I agree with you.

On (2), I agree with you for local models. BUT, there are also the open source Chinese models accessible via open-router. Your argument ("don't hold a candle to SOTA models") does not hold if the comparison is between those.

On (1), I agree more with the grandparent than with your assessment. Yes, OpenAI and Anthropic are killing it for now, but the time horizon is very short. I use codex and claude daily, but it's also clear to me that open source is catching up quickly, both w.r.t. the models and the agentic harnesses.

DeathArrow | parent | next
>BUT, there are also the open source Chinese models accessible via open-router.

I thought so myself, but after burning a lot of money on OpenRouter in a few days I just subscribed to Z.ai's Coding Pro plan and using the subscription is much, much friendlier with my wallet.

itake | parent
> the open source Chinese models accessible via open-router

And? They aren't as good as SOTA models. Even the SOTA model provider's small models aren't worth using for many of my coding tasks.

DeathArrow | root | parent
In my limited experience with it, GLM 5.1 is on par with Opus 4.6.