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shash | on: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire
That analysis requires discovering what the US’s objectives were. Not sure we can…
fernandopj | parent | next
Discovering? It was announced a thousand times, maybe you dismissed because none of them were easily achievable?

Opening the Strait, renouncing nuclear program, renouncing ballistic program, regime change. Even Israel will be forced to retreat from Lebanon.

Iran won by choking the Strait and telling USA and Israel they could endure far longer than their aggressors could endure a few missiles and domestic support drop.

A Pakistani-made taco was not in my radar for today.

runako | root | parent | next
Opening the Strait was not a goal of this action; the Strait was open before this war started. They are trying to sell as a win a return to the status quo ante.
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abustamam | root | parent | next
I dismissed them because the president and the Pentagon could not seem to articulate the objectives of the war in a way that was cohesive with one another.

Also,the Strait was open before the war.

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swarnie | root | parent | next
> Opening the Strait

So the US started a war with an objective to open the Strait which only closed due to the war they started.

Can you explain what you mean here mate?

vkou | root | parent
How on Earth was opening the straight an objective of this war, when the straight was open before the war.

It's like Russia declaring that Russian control of Moscow is an objective of the war with Ukraine.

> renouncing nuclear program,

If that was the objective, the US should be declaring war on the guy who scrapped the Iran nuclear deal, because it was accomplishing just that.

tristanj | parent | next
I explained the primary cause of this war here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47684632

This war is happening today, to exchange a future nuclear war with Iran with a conventional war today. The US and Israel can fight a conventional war with Iran. They cannot fight a nuclear one. In a nuclear war, Israel would be destroyed by nuclear missiles in the two days. The possibility of a nuclear Iran is an existential crisis for Israel, and Israel will do anything possible to prevent Iran from gaining nukes.

That is why we have this conventional war happening today, (with unclear goals), to prevent a nuclear one in the future.

This war was unavoidable btw, it was going to happen sometime this year or next.

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samrus | parent | next
The main one was stayed to be regine change. That didnt happen
selcuka | parent | next
Some might argue that the US's (or the POTUS's) objective was simply to disrupt the financial markets.
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dmoy | parent | next
Well if the objective was just about distracting from some domestic issue, then maybe it doesn't matter from Trump's perspective.