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frenchie4111 | on: Nvidia NemoClaw
I found this part interesting: "Inference requests from the agent never leave the sandbox directly. OpenShell intercepts every call and routes it to the NVIDIA cloud provider."

Seems like they are doing this to become the default compute provider for the easiest way to set up OpenClaw. If it works out, it could drive a decent amount of consumer inference revenue their way

cactusplant7374 | parent
Secure installation isn't the main problem with OpenClaw. This project doesn't seem to be solving a real problem. Of course the real problem is giving an LLM access to everything and hoping for the best.
blizdiddy | root | parent | next
Running OpenClaw is the nerd equivalent of rolling coal
PurpleRamen | root | parent | next
OpenClaw can be useful, in theory, unlike rolling coal. OpenClaw is what people always hoped Siri, Alexa and/or Google Assistant would be, and now it's really here. It may be expensive, has a chance to become your local Skynet and might randomly delete or leak everything that's valuable for you..but I guess this counts as growing pains.
recursive | root | parent
Rolling coal can be useful in theory, for pissing people off. As intended.
jsolson | root | parent
I'm trying to put together what you could possibly mean by this -- rolling coal is fundamentally about spite. In isolation, nobody _wants_ their vehicle to spew black smoke. It only comes close to making sense in the context of another population (EV owners, typically, or more generally "the libs").

OpenClaw lets people live a bit dangerously, but fundamentally gives them something that they actually wanted. They wanted it so badly that they're willing to take what seem like insane risks to get it.

What do the two have in common?

bigfishrunning | root | parent | next
> OpenClaw lets people live a bit dangerously, but fundamentally gives them something that they actually wanted. They wanted it so badly that they're willing to take what seem like insane risks to get it.

For the first time in my career I feel so incredibly behind on this: What is open claw giving people that they want so badly? It just seems like Russian Roulette, I honestly don't see the upside

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sam-cop-vimes | root | parent | next
It is possible that they don't understand the risks involved, but yes, it certainly is tapping into unmet need.
frantathefranta | root | parent | next
> In isolation, nobody _wants_ their vehicle to spew black smoke.

Honestly, when I was 12 years old and my dad floored the TDi in our Land Rover (with the diesel particulate filter deleted), it felt satisfying in a way, like the machine is allowed to be its most efficient self.

Now that I'm adult, I know that it's marginal gains for the car and terrible for the environment, but there are people that have the thinking capability of a 12 year old driving these trucks. I don't think all of them do it because of spite (though I'm sure most do).

croes | root | parent
And don’t care about them but they endanger third parties too.

And many of them are people who should know better.

Let’s make them 100% liable

Iolaum | root | parent
While I don't have OpenClaw installed and not sure how I 'd use it I doubt all the hype around it is because it doesn't solve a real problem. The project grew to huge popularity organically!!!

How can that happen if it doesn't serve a need people have?

eru | root | parent | next
Compare NFTs. For them, it depends a bit on whether you see scratching a gambling itch as a real problem.
tryauuum | root | parent | next
people are trying to run as fast as they can so that they are not left behind

(I've never run openclaw but planning)

g947o | root | parent
Maybe let me ask this question:

How is this any different from NFT?

danielbln | root | parent | next
I'll ignore the bait and answer: NFTs were gambling in disguise, these claws are personal/household assistants, that proactively perform various tasks and can be genuinely useful. The security problem is very much unsolved, but comparing them to NFTs is just willfully ignorant at best
PurpleRamen | root | parent
NFTs can't delete your mails.
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