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kevin_thibedeau | on: The 49MB web page
> We really shouldn't allow web developers more than 128kbit

Marketing dept. too. They're the primary culprits in all the tracking scripts.

xp84 | parent | next
Reserve a huge share of the blame for the “UX dEsIgNeRs”. Let’s demand to reimplement every single standard widget in a way that has 50% odds of being accessible, has bugs, doesn’t work correctly with autofill most of the time, and adds 600kB of code per widget. Our precious branding requires it.
albedoa | root | parent
> Let’s demand to reimplement every single standard widget in a way that has 50% odds of being accessible, has bugs, doesn’t work correctly with autofill most of the time, and adds 600kB of code per widget.

You're describing the web developers again. (Or, if UX has the power to demand this from software engineering, then the problem is not the UX designers.)

sayamqazi | root | parent | next
I as a developer cannot refuse to not build as-is what was signed off by product manager in figma.

Recently had to put so many huge blurs that there was screen tearing like effect whenver you srcolled a table. AND No i was not allowed to use prebake-blurs because they wouldnt resize "responsively"

whstl | root | parent
If you don’t have an engineering manager or tech lead able to back you on saying no to a PM, there is something seriously broken with that organization.
zbentley | root | parent
True, but this describes at least half of software engineering organizations in my experience.
boomlinde | root | parent
That e.g. a form should work predictably according to some unambiguous set of principles is of course a UX concern. If it doesn't, then maybe someone responsible for UX should be more involved in the change review process so that they can actually execute on their responsibility and make sure that user experience concerns are being addressed.

But sure, the current state of brokenness is a result of a combination of overambitious designs and poor programming. When I worked as a web developer I was often tasked with making elements behave in some bespoke way that was contrary to the default browser behavior. This is not only surprising to the user, but makes the implementation error prone.

One example is making a form autosubmit or jump to a different field once a text field has reached a certain length, or dividing a pin/validation code entry fields into multiple text fields, one for each character. This is stupidity at the UX level which causes bugs downstream because the default operation implemented by the browser isn't designed to be idiotic. Then you have to go out of your way to make it stupid enough for the design spec, and some sizeable subset of webpages that do this will predictably end up with bugs related to copying and pasting or autofilling.

sitharus | parent | next
often we're told to add Google XSS-as-a-serv.. I mean Tag Manager, then the non-tech people in Marketing go ham without a care in the world beyond their metrics. Can't blame them, it's what they're measured on.

Marketing and managers should be restricted as well, because managers set the priorities.

whstl | root | parent
We should 100% blame them.

I recently had to clean up a mess and after days asking what’s in use and what’s not, turns out nothing is really needed, and 80 tracking pixels were added “because that’s how we do it”.

pseudohadamard | parent
You can still make a site unusable without having it load lots of data. Go to https://bunnings.com.au on a phone and try looking up an item. It's actually faster to walk around the store and find an employee and get them to look it up on an in-store terminal than it is to use their web site to find something. A quick visit to profiles.firefox.com indicates it's probably more memory than CPU, half a gigabyte of memory consumed if I'm interpreting the graphical bling correctly.
saintfire | root | parent
How gaslit I must be to remark how more painless this is to use than literally any NA store website I've used.

Less useless shit popping up (with ad block so I mean just the cookies, store location etc harassments) Store selector didn't request new pages every time I do anything; resulting in all the popups again. (just download our spyware and all these popups will go away!) Somehow my page loads are snappier than local stores despite being across the planet.

Not saying it's a good site. It's almost the same as Home Depot. Just slightly better. I mean there's an AI button for searching for a product so you can do agentic shopping with a superintelligence on your side.