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A new Bigfoot documentary helps explain our conspiracy-minded era

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-new-bigfoot-documentary-helps-explain-our-conspiracy-minded-era/ar-AA1Yv6px
Supposedly exposes the Patterson-Gimlin film as a hoax, which is a big deal in the Bigfoot community.
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There's a Bigfoot trap in Oregon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigfoot_trap

I wonder if it gets a mention? It does get a mention in the recent Bruce Campbell movie https://www.ernieandemma.com/ - which looks to be even more poignant with his recent cancer diagnosis :-(

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Given that a large portion of the population has a HD or higher quality camera in their pocket most of the time these days, most cryptid style conspiracies seem pretty well debunked at this point.
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What does bigfoot have to do with conspiracy? Doesn't bigfoot qualify as folklore/urban legend/pseudoscience/hoax/mythology? Is there widespread belief the government is actively covering up its existence for some reason?

Nothing in the linked story explained it. Did someone make a whole documentary and couldn't get the most basic info right? Or did the reporter mangle the article write-up?

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Physics is needed to fully understand the demolition of 3 towers..
There are more conspiracies. Here are some well-verified ones:

- Epstein and way too many important people.

- The big one from the 1970s onward to increase the return on capital by lowering living standards, the "Powell memorandum".[1] That's the founding document of the modern conservative movement.

- Facebook/Meta being behind schemes for age verification.[2]

[1] https://scholarlycommons.law.wlu.edu/powellmemo/

[2] https://techoversight.org/2025/07/29/bloomberg-meta-google-l...

I wouldn't say that Epstein is a vindication of conspiracy theories, at least not the "Bigfoot" type. Epstein was already in trouble with the law for trafficking over 20 years ago. The pedophilia in the Catholic church was known decades before that. It's shameful that these stories didn't get more attention sooner, but the general veracity of them wasn't in question.

The prototypical pedophilia conspiracy theory we didn't believe at all is the Comet Ping Pong one, which was appropriate.

> The pedophilia in the Catholic church was known decades before that.

Except the proportion of paedophile priests is about the same as the proportion of paedophiles in the general population. There are more paedophiles in schools and social services than in religious organisations - and there have even been more convictions of teachers and social workers, at least tin the UK. The reason you think of the Catholic Church this way is BECAUSE it got more media attention earlier than elsewhere. A surprising number of people the UK do not know about the biggest big paedophile scandal in the country, the Islington one, that was huge, and at least one politician who was responsible for the failure to investigate went on to have a successful career in politics (the only time it set back her career at all was when Blair wanted to make her minister for children there was a backlash)

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> Except the proportion of paedophile priests is about the same as the proportion of paedophiles in the general population.

I doubt you have any reliable statistics about this, given how many victims keep silent out of fear.

But in any case, the moral failure of the church was not the existence of individual abusers (which indeed can exist anywhere in society), but how on an institutional level known abusers were protected by the curch. Everyone who was part of the cover-up (which went all the way to the top) is complicit.

I think if 20 years ago you claimed that there was a global sex trafficking ring that procured young girls for elites, politicians, celebrities, and royalty, you'd be laughed off as a David Icke level conspiracist. These days it just seems obvious that that was going on.
Its not just a sex trafficking ring, its a corruption ring, and the corruption part of it is much bigger. It is what the arrests in the UK have been for. Given how senior some of the people in the UK are (Mandelson is a former cabinet minister, and a former European Commissioner, and was very influential even before he held those posts).

If they had not trafficked minors as well I wonder whether it would ever have been exposed. It makes me wonder what else is going on.

"Bigfoot" isn't inherently a conspiracy theory. If you say that bigfoot exists, you're wrong, but not necessarily a conspiracy theorist. To be a conspiracy theorist, you also have to posit a grand conspiracy to conceal the existence of bigfoot.

If you posit a conspiracy that only involves a few people who could plausibly coordinate to conceal the truth, that's also not a grand conspiracy, and we don't call people conspiracy theorist for believing in regular, everyday criminal conspiracies.

> If you say that bigfoot exists, you're wrong

That not a philosophically supportable statement. "There's insufficient evidence to warrant belief in your claim" is more realistic.

It wasn't meant to be philosophical, it was meant to be practical. As a practical matter, you're wrong if you say that Bigfoot exists, or that the sun won't rise tomorrow.
> If you posit a conspiracy that only involves a few people who could plausibly coordinate to conceal the truth, that's also not a grand conspiracy, and we don't call people conspiracy theorist for believing in regular, everyday criminal conspiracies.

No, but we did call people conspiracy theorists for believing the thing Snowden subsequently showed to be real.

Not me, I didn't. That conspiracy was certainly pretty big, but there was also a ton of smaller leaks as you'd expect on a real conspiracy of that size, so you certainly wouldn't be called nuts for assuming NSA were spying on a lot they weren't supposed to.

Security state loyalists were not nearly as influential in online discourse back then, as they are now. Probably astroturfing, AI and algorithmic amplification plays a part in that.

> If you say that bigfoot exists, you're wrong, but not necessarily a conspiracy theorist.

I’m not sure if “I’m just a cryptozoologist” is much of a vindication.

The documentary does not, in fact, help explain the conspiracy zeitgeist. Human nature has been reason enough through modern history.

This MSN "article" seems oddly out of place on HN.

In a similar vein I highly recommend Behind the Curve, which is a documentary about the flat Earth movement. It was a pretty fair film and tried to get to know the people involved in the movement and what it was that motivated them.

It was interesting to see that one of the main figures featured in the documentary started out pretty generically wanting to get into conspiracy theories and started reading up on one after another until he found a particular one that clicked.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behind_the_Curve

Conspiracy theories arise from the natural tendency of human brain to look for patterns even where there are none.

That being said, nowadays it seems that a difference between conspiracy theory and confirmed fact is 12-24 months

Why are explanations so popular? You gotta wonder.
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I used to look down on conspiracy theories, now I think many are actually true, or are mixed with truth. Its really unlikely that a theory circulates widely but has no basis in reality
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