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Yes, this is a perfect example of what I'm talking about.

A Tesla fan could also give you an equally logical explanation about how the "regulatory definition" of "recall" is outdated because it is from an era in which all recalls were physical or that the general public's misconceptions about autopilots for boats and planes are not Tesla's fault.

My point was not that either side of these debates is right or wrong. It is that people are transparently starting with a conclusion and working backwards to justify it rather than having any consistent principle underlying their belief on this issue. It is pointless to debate whether definitions are or are not important when the actual issue being debated here is whether Tesla is good or bad.

Sure, the term might be outdated. But from my perspective, it's almost exclusively Tesla apologists playing weasel words...

"Autopilot doesn't mean what we promised; only what wikipedia says. GOTCHA!"

"Recall should only apply to physical fixes THIS IS SOFTWARE. GOTCHA!"

You mentioned "both side" in your first post and I really don't see it.

It is funny that I ended my last comment with the following: "It is pointless to debate whether definitions are or are not important when the actual issue being debated here is whether Tesla is good or bad." and you're seemingly still trying to engage me in a debate on the definitions of these words. Just say you don't like Tesla and move on.