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Baltics and Poland are only threatened by Russian TV commentators and sometimes Dugin, who depending on the mood of the day says that Poland and the Baltics are not part of the Eurasian project, and on other days says that Estonia is in the German influence sphere (!) but Latvia and Lithuania are in the Russian sphere. These people foam at the mouth and have little influence.

I have never heard any serious Russia politician claim that the Baltics or Poland should be invaded.

Ukraine and Georgia are fundamentally different (for them), which is why they always have been red lines as pointed out in the Burns diplomatic telegram.

wolvesechoes | parent | next
Invasion is not necessary. It is sad that any discussion limits politics and rivalry between countries to full-scale invasion.

Poland and Russia have opposing interests. Period. Russia wants to be a part of Europe, Poland doesn't want Russia to be a part of Europe. Poland wants to be sovereign country that keeps growing economically, Russia doesn't want that. Russia doesn't need to invade Poland, it is enough to "reshape the European Security Architecture", reduce Polish chances to develop and growth etc.

peterfirefly | root | parent
> Russia wants to be a part of Europe

Doubtful.

Sabinus | root | parent | next
They want to be part of the European economy. Just like Ukraine.

Of course, Ukraine was willing to undergo the required reforms. Russia and Putin is far too proud and suspicious of the West to do that.

wolvesechoes | root | parent
I mean, they are quite open about it.

Europe is not limited to EU or shared Western values of human rights and democracy.

ashoeafoot | parent | next
well until 2022 no serious Russian politician (is there such a thing among the sock puppets ?) said Ukraine needed a invasion . Dictatorships.. if the boss pops a hemoroid in the morning , you march according to plan in the evening .
mvc | parent | next
> any serious Russia politician claim that the Baltics or Poland should be invaded.

The last few years have seen the talking heads on right-wing news TV become actual politicians with real power.

Dunno if that same pathway to power exists in Russia but it sure does in the US.

type0 | parent
> I have never heard any serious Russia politician claim that the Baltics or Poland should be invaded.

Putin did on one of St.Petersburg conferences, but you are right there are no serious politicians in Russia.