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Unions produce nothing and don't innovate. Yes, they can benefit some people, but they provide no net societal benefit. In fact, they are a net negative because they misallocate resources (such as by keeping factories open producing cars that nobody wants).
onemoresoop | parent | next
They could benefit some people? They benefit the workers who would otherwise be worked literally to death. I wish they were not necessary but they came to existence exactly for this exact reason. If you could come up with an equitable and non exploitative system that works for everyone, suddenly you no longer have a need for unions.
Acrobatic_Road | root | parent
>They could benefit some people? They benefit the workers who would otherwise be worked literally to death.

The problem is that they benefit workers not through productivity increases, but via collective bargaining, i.e. at the expense of society. Consider that when unions go on strike, they reduce economic productivity and disrupt the economy. Likewise, when unions fight to prevent factories from closing to protect the jobs of workers, this causes an inefficient allocation of resources - so now companies must bid up the prices of raw materials to produce things that nobody wants just to keep some people employed. Unions oppose automation for similar reasons, which is why we have the most inefficient ports in the world (worse than Africa!).

So in sum, unions do literally nothing to make society better off. What benefits unionized workers receive come at cost of society (including other unionized workers!)

>If you could come up with an equitable and non exploitative system that works for everyone, suddenly you no longer have a need for unions.

Capitalism is working great, actually. It would work better without unions.

gaganyaan | parent
This is braindead capitalist propaganda. Stop filling your head with garbage. At the very least, keep it to yourself so other people don't have to smell it. Gross.
Acrobatic_Road | root | parent
Economics is braindead capitalist propaganda. Got it.
gaganyaan | root | parent
"Economics" in the sense of "blathering on about nonsense opinions", yes.

"Economics" in the sense of "any sort of understanding of how the world works", not so much.

Drain the rot from your brain. Ew.

Acrobatic_Road | root | parent
Nothing I'm saying is particularly hard to understand or controversial - and that's with most economists being left-wing! If a field dominated by the left can't even find strong support for unions, then perhaps its actually you who lacks "any sort of understanding of how the world works".